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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That why schumer was so angry that he had his little shut down tantrum.  He thought he had a handshake deal with trump on immigration last week because he conceded all the important deal points but trump pulled the rug out from under him.  He still should have not shut down the govt cause now he gave trump a double victory.  Trump really ate Schumers lunch on all this.[/quote]
You're not seeing it from the perspective of Schumer and the Democrats.  From their perspective, if they don't stand up to fight for the DACA kids, then all 800,000 of them are subject to deportation starting in March 2018.  All those kids were brought to the United States as minors, and have been in the United States for the majority of their lives (some from before they could even walk or speak), so they know the United States as their only home.  Many of them have no family elsewhere.  If they're tossed out of this country, they will essentially be on the street in a foreign land.  Schumer and the Democrats are the last hope for those DACA kids.  So for Schumer and the Democrats, this is a moral stand.

For Trump - and I guess for you - it's not about the people or the issue, but rather about the optics of who "wins" and who "loses."  So I guess if that's your perspective, then you can say Trump "wins" this round.

Speaking as an independent moderate though, I respect Schumer and the Dems for taking a principled stand to help the DACA kids.  They did all they could, and if they are ultimately unable to help those kids, then I won't fault them.  If the public polling is any indicator, then a significant majority of people in the United States also agree with them.  So even if Trump "wins" by forcing the DACA kids out of the country, he may well face lots of serious backlash.[/quote]

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