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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Because God is Truth, and I choose to live my life following truth. It's really that simple.[/quote]

No, it isn't. If you need faith to believe in it then how do you know it is the truth? With faith you could believe in absolutely anything at all.[/quote]

Here we go again... the old cycling argument...

If you would open your eyes and open your mind, you would know that God is Truth. But you've already decided that you are right and the hundreds of millions of people throughout human history who have had a personal relationship with God -- many through Jesus Christ -- are wrong. [/quote]
Truth isn't decided by majority voting.  Hundreds of millions of people throughout human history also saw women as chattel and believed that slavery is a natural order of things.  That they had a personal relationship with God (assuming it was genuine) speaks of nothing but their need to have one. Just as people who believed slavery is a natural order of things needed it to be so to fit their needs. [/quote]
That is Man's interpretation of Hell. I am a Christian that does not believe in that. I have a more metaphysical understanding. I think Hell is what we have created on earth now. I dont believe God out of fear, i do it becaues He loved me first and His love is perfect. As for why horrible things happen, because we allow it. God breathed into us His Spirit. He is Creation, therefore we have the ability to create. He gave us dominion on Earth. We have have used both our Creative ability and that dominion to create evil and wreak havoc on this earth. We allow poverty, we allow our egos to run rampant therefore allowing ourselves to do harm emotionally, physically,etc to others.
We say there is no God, don't seek Him for guidance and direction, take Him out of ECERYTHING, then blame Him cause its all gone to s***.
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The question should be: why believe in this ^^ god. A punitive god would be the worst! He could save us all but he's miffed and turns his back. It really takes an odd duck to enjoy the idea of such an authoritarian god. [/quote]
But God does not turn His back, that is why He sent His Son.
You cannot deny God, then get mad because you do not like,or  understand the way He does things.
If you don't believe, leave it alone . Don't be so mad that others do believe. You evidently want prove how your unbelief makes you smarter. It doesn't, it just makes you more arrogant. I am not smarter because I have faith, it does not make me more valuable either.[/quote]
i Just want to clarify that what I was trying to say was that your determination to prove people of faith are not smart or logical makes you arrogant. I was not saying that your unbelief makes you arrogant.[/quote]

Who is trying to prove people of faith are not smart or logical?    Its' been said on this and other threads, by believers and non-believers alike,  that believers can be very smart and logical, but it's not intelligence or logic that makes them believers -- it's faith.[/quote]
 A lot of people on these threads directly say or infer that people of faith do not have a logical mind, do not believe in logic and are not smart. So, yes, I was speaking to those folk.By the way, I happen to believe that faith and logic are not mutually exclusive. [/quote

I disagree -- I think people say that people are not logical when it comes to faith -- and even faithful people will tell you that.    There is nothing logical, for instance, about thinking that humans, unlike all other forms of life, can live forever in another realm, if they believe in God and his son who died for them.  Yet there are extremely intelligent and logical people who believe that, because they have the gift of faith.[/quote]

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