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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima]Right now, they are putting kids bodies in ice cream coolers because they ran our of room .Some people call Hamas Terrorists and some call them Heroes. Some call Israel a terrorist state and some call it a legitimate state. Children are children,[b] if you kill them intentionally [/b]and try to justify the reasons behind doing that, then everybody will call you a terrorist. Period.[/quote]

I agree with every you say except for the implication of what is in bold.  I am 100% certain that Israel is not killing kids intentionally.  That kids are dying is a tragedy.  But they are not being killed intentionally.

If the militants did not use the area near the shelters as launch sites, if the militants did not use the shelters to store weapons (a war crime, by the way), then shelters would not be hit.

I am not on the ground, so I do not know what is actually happening, but consider the possibility that Hamas militants are firing from the vicinity of shelters...say 20m - 30 m away.  Israel responds with artillery or mortars to the launch site.  Unfortunately, there is something called Circular Error of probability (CEP).  The CEP for the artillery is typically on the order of 10 m, according to [url]http://aviationweek.com/awin/new-israeli-artillery-concepts-technology-combine-0 [/url].  With a CEP of 10, that means that there is a 50% chance that the munition will land within 10 m of the target.  That is pretty good.

Now, if you launch 100 attacks, 1/2 will miss by more that 10 m, 1/4 or so by more than 20m. So of the 100 rounds, 25 will miss by more that 20 m, but in any direction.  A shelter is 20 m from the target....assume the shelter is 20x20 m, and 20m is the closest point.  In such a scenario, simulations I did indicate they would have about a 3.5% chance of hitting the shelter.  In this scenario, they were not targeting the shelter.  The problem is the children are caught in the crossfire, not that they are being intentionally targeted.

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I respectfully disagree. With the use of drones, F-16s and an arsenal of modern weapon technology, Israel has the ability to target single individuals and therefore to avoid civilian casualties. But rather than avoid them, Israel has repeatedly targeted civilians as part of its military operations. Israel itself said it, they used the the Dahiya Doctrine which is central to these operations and refers to Israel's indiscriminate attacks on civilians. After they did it it in Lebanon in 2006. Maj. Gen. Gadi Eizenkot said that this would be applied elsewhere:

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You can disagree, but what I stated is not an opinion.  You drop a bomb from an f16, you have a target, but it does not nessisarily land on the target.  There are uncertainties in everything....Including dropping bombs from an F16.  Or from artillery.  Smart munitions reduces the uncertainties, but does not eliminate them.  This is not a matter for debate.  This is how things work.

What you can argue is the overall targeting of something that has a reasonable chance of hitting something you don't want to hit (the shelter).  But, then, if we blame Israel, we must also blame Hamas for firing within the buffer (assuming that is what happened).

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