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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]When you stop focusing on the "type" of person you might come up with a winner. Choosing someone because "it’s time for an X" is why you keep losing. Notice the only time Trump lost, was to an old white guy….[/quote] Trump was a viable presidential candidate in 2016. He was a complete joke of a major party nominee in 2020 and 2024. He lost to the weakest Dem nominee ever in 2020 and then he only won in 2024 because of the extraordinary weakness of the sitting Dem POTUS. The 2020 and 2024 elections are outliers that shall hopefully never be repeated.[/quote] Trump got more votes, by far, in 2020 and 2024 than any Republican ever. Not just absolutely, but as a % of registered voters and as a % of the population too. Your analysis that he just won because of weak Democrats is not supported by the numbers. (And, by the way, those weak Democrats in 2020 and 2024 also got more votes by far than any Democrats ever. Also because of Trump.) Dismissing Trump's performances in 2016 and 2020 as outliers that we didn't need to reckon with is the reason he won again in 2024. And dismissing his 2024 victory as an outlier is making the same mistake that has already burned us. We need to stop telling people why they voted for him ("You're stupid and you made a mistake") and start ASKING people why they voted for him. [/quote] Trump was a formidable populist candidate in 2016. In 2020, with all the advantages of being the incumbent, he lost to [b]a 77 year old politician who had never had previous success outside of Delaware [/b]even when he was much more fit for office. In 2024, Trump could only garner 50% of the popular vote and 312 electoral votes when running against a last minute replacement candidate who was the VP for the very unpopular POTUS she replaced. A normal or at least average POTUS candidate would have won at least 60% of the popular vote and 500 electoral votes if running against the unprecedented Dem Party election debacle in 2024. Trump was a very weak major party nominee in 2020 and 2024 and him being the current sitting POTUS puts all GOP politicians running for office in a very vulnerable position through 2028. The numbers don't lie. Any objective-minded political scientist would tell you the same. It is what it is.[/quote] Joe Biden was elected Vice President of the United States. Twice.[/quote] Ummm... Obama was elected, yes. Biden was the 2008 Dem canditate who got crushed, absolutely destroyed, by legitimate POTUS candidates Obama and HRC in 2008 primary. Anyone who thought that idiot was our best bet to pin down MAGA for 8 years is as stupid as the MAGA idiots.[/quote]
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