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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So Trump has no idea that many of us were working from home long before Covid?  And there is no office space for us now??

I am not union either OP...and I think we are most at risk.  We will be back first and more.  I think there will be many unplanned messy retirements with no transition time.[/quote]

BS - There is plenty of office space for you.  You just don't want to go into your cube or less than lux office.  No one is forcing you to retire just because you are too lazy to work. Seems like you retired in place. 
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DP, but please catch up. The federal government significantly downsized its office footprint since 2020 (and was in the process of that even before COVID). Many of us have shared how we literally don’t have an office to go to, or are hotel-ing so we don’t have space to go 5 days per week. [b]Also some people at my office have union contracts specifying their ADS must have a private office with door that closes because of the type of secure work they are doing. So they cannot just be stuck in a cube farm. [/b]

Also at large agencies you need a prospectus and then must solicit bids and then get Congressional approval to sign a new lease.

It’s clear so many of you on this thread have never worked for or with the government in any capacity, so no one really cares about the nonsense you’re pulling out of your @$$.[/quote]

The “pack them in and have them sit in hallways” crowd has clearly never dealt with PII/PHI.  And would absolutely lose their s**t if their own PII/PHI was being discussed on the phone with them or with a manager, judge or program leader in a “pack them in” environment, where 10 people who don’t need to know about their rape or herpes or abortion or ED or whatever could overhear all the intimate details— complete with spelling their name and the SSN to confirm identify or collaborate with a co-worker. Or, even worse IMO, the name and SSI of your kid who underwent a trauma like incest or severe abuse and now needs out program.  My ADS contract says I can’t even have a “smart device” with Siri, Alexa or the like activated in my home office and that I have to be able to keep my computer screens and calls protected from everyone else in my home (office door that shuts and white noise machine in my case).

And yes, it usually other Feds with clearance who would overhear info. But, in a packed office, a lot of people overhear. And some of those people will gossip about “it’s messed up situation I overheard today”. That would be the water cooler talk you want so badly.  In my office, because we deal with sensitive information, we cant have janitors come in at night when they could see things on desks or rifle through things. So, when I was in the office, janitorial staff did their work between 8 and 5, and had to do their work when there were people around. So, I was limited in what I could do when they were in my office.   Add them to the list of people overhearing PII/PHI, SSNs and your STIs amd your 10 year olds abortion because rape baby.

The sheer number of things DOGE has not considered is mind blowing.

We gave up massive amounts of leased space. They don’t have the capacity to “pack them in,” let alone give me a private place for when I work with PII/PHI. [/quote]

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