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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]God did create that utopia you guys are thinking about. That was Eden. The problem was, humans were not satisfied with it and wanted more. Deep down, you and I all know that we would never be satisfied. So God is teaching us about what is really important, communion with him, not satisfying our own bottomless appetites. [/quote]

So because people thousands of years ago were ungrateful a-holes, we now have kids dying of cancer and in car accidents and drowning and born into abuse? None of us asked to be born but are here in a world of suffering because people before us sinned?[/quote]

The present human condition *if you believe in God* is the result of original sin. If you don’t believe in God, it’s just life. People get diseases, have accidents, fall off ladders, get bitten by mosquitoes and contract malaria, take too many drugs and overdose, get sick and die. People have accidents and don’t mean  hurt themselves or others; some people absolutely mean to hurt others and take great pleasure in the pain of others. I don’t know how people who don’t believe in God think the universe works, but it seems many think everything is random. Nobody is trying to convince those people to believe in God.[/quote]

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