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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"PP you are referring to. My parents never prepped me for anything. I aced every exam I took as a young child. I then became a diligent student as I got older. I don't think it is parental persistence; it is individual persistence."

"I grew up in another state. I was in MG (mentally gifted) and took all honors in junior high and all honors/AP classes in high school."

WHO CARES???  Can we stop talking about you and get back to the NAACP complaint?

Certain minority groups are very underrepresented in AAP and TJ.  I do not think anyone is suggesting that we "dumb down" any tests or lower any standards.

If there is a gap here, why does the gap exist?  Several posts here point to 1)intelligence 2) interest 3) ambition or "individual persistence"

So are we saying that these minority groups lack these things??  As one PP noted the correlation between mother's educational attainment and child's academic success - I am sure there is also a correlation between parents' income and child's academic success.

Sooooo, do we care?  Or do we still insist that the poor kids are just not smart, interested or ambitious enough and too bad for them?

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I'm so sick of these race games.  I grew up poor. My parents could barely speak English. I worked hard and did well in school. I'm Asian though so I supposedly don't count as a minority even though there are more Hispanics and blacks than Asians.[/quote]

sigh....these "me, me, me", "I pulled myself up by own bootstraps" anecdotes are so lame and not helpful to the discussion. [/quote]

It has nothing to do with me individually and everything to do with race and is relevant to the discussion.

Based on these boards, the main issue with AAP and TJ is that there are too many Asians (overrepresented in both AAP and TJ compared to their % of the total population) and not enough black/Hispanics in AAP/TJ. What everyone seems to want is less Asians in the program so that more other minorities can be in the program. My whole point is that Asians are a minority too.[/quote]

Who is "everyone"?  Certainly, the NAACP complaint does not state that there should be less Asians in these programs.  The Asian population may well be a minority, but does not have a representation problem in AAP or TJ.  Your whole point is that Asians are a minority too - ok. And?  What kind of recognition are you looking for?  Are you saying that if Asians can do it, black and Hispanics should be able to as well?  There is a whole historical context of insitutional discrimination against blacks and Hispanics in the U.S. that is different than the history of Asians in the U.S.  Of course, there are exceptions (the, "I overcame every obstacle and was successful kind of stories) for every group (low-income, black, Hispanic, Asian) and that is great, but there are obviously some challenges for the named minority groups in the case that do not exist for every group.  
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Yes, I am saying that if Asians can do it, blacks and Hispanics should be able to as well. Blacks have a history of discrimination in the US but African-Americans have no language barrier. The Spanish language is very similiar in phonics to the English language. Asian languages have significantly different grammar and a completely different alphabet. If Asian children (not all from well educated wealthy families) can come to the US, learn a new language and do fine, I don't see why African-Americans who were born here with English as their first language cannot keep up.

DH came to the states from China, had to learn English and did not ace all his classes in school. He worked at a restaurant. Eventually he learned the English language, got into a decent college, graduated top of his class in his ok college and got through med school. He did superior in med school when English became a non-factor. In the other years, English being a second language was a handicap. Now he's learning Spanish so he can communicate to his non-English speaking patients. It is a breeze learning Spanish compared to trying to learn English from Chinese.[/quote]

It sounds like your DH certainly would not have been found AAP eligible or made it into TJ, which is what we are talking about here....[/quote]

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