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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NP. First, I’m not voting for Trump or donating to his campaign because Jan. 6th was an attempted coup and I cannot support the party attempting to overthrow democracy.

But OP, I get it and I agree with you generally. What is particularly disgusting to me is the gaslighting we get from the Democrats. It’s as if they think people are stupid.

No, crime isn’t down. We all live it. Just because you instruct police not to report crimes doesn’t mean it’s down in reality. I know more people who have experienced crime in the past four years than the previous twenty combined.

No, immigration isn’t a non-issue. We can all see the sharp increase in homelessness under Biden over the past four years. My previously safe neighborhood now has serious problems with homelessness. And these are folks who are out of their minds on drugs, victimized by a raging drug trafficking organization.

No, I’m not going to pretend that sex-based differences do not exist and that hard fought safe spaces that women have literally died to earn should be sacrificed to appease the religious beliefs of natal males. Female bodies have been literally killed — are still disproportionately killed — and yet you want to pretend all of that history has disappeared because some privileged males want to destroy sex-based rights? GTFO.

Stop the gaslighting, Democrats. It’s ridiculous. [/quote]
Typical low IQ MAGA take.[/quote]

Typical dim gaslighting from progressives with no ability to substantively address issues.

You are why Trump will win. [/quote]

Shut it. You’re not fighting “progressives.” You’re fighting party-line Democrats who themselves hate the progressive wing of the party.[/quote]

It doesn’t matter. The refusal to deal with what people across the country are experiencing and living (and instead gaslighting them) is going to cost Democrats the election.

Democrats depend on voter turnout to win. That happens when people feel heard and feel like their reality is at least seen. The Democrats aren’t doing that now and instead going all out with gaslighting. It’s a failing strategy. [/quote]

What is Trump doing to deal with what I am experiencing and living?  All I hear from him are petty insults and complaining about how the world is unfair to him.  [/quote]

He is doing literally nothing. He will not accomplish anything, consistent with his prior administration.

But what he isn’t doing is telling people to pretend that their reality isn’t what they are experiencing. He isn’t telling people that crime is down (when people experience a sharp uptick in crime), he isn’t telling them that inflation is down when everybody can compare grocery costs, he isn’t telling people that their daughters should shut up and be happy with lose to biological boys, he isn’t telling people that unconditional support for Israel is bringing peace to the Middle East, he isn’t telling people that just a few more billion dollars will stop the war in Ukraine.

He’s got dementia, he is incompetent, he is a malignant narcissist, and genuinely a terrible person. But he is not asking people to ignore their own lived experiences and reality. And that is why he is resonating. [/quote]

He’s telling me that he actually won the 2020 election.  Hes telling me he did a great job handling COVID.  Hes telling me he had a great economic record.  He’s telling me he has a plan to cut my health care costs.  Hes telling me that DEI is the reason for Boeings mess-ups. He’s telling me has plans to cut inflation.  Seems like a lot of asking me to ignore my own lived experience and reality.[/quote]

You are an excellent example of why the Democrats are going to lose, because you have entirely missed the point. Everything you list above, every single item, is in the realm of rhetoric not reality. Trump’s voters don’t believe Trump handled COVID well. They don’t believe he has a great economic plan. They don’t believe all the ridiculous and frankly obviously dementia-driven nonsense that he says. You think his voters actually believe him? My goodness. You have the luxury of parsing out the nonsense that Trump spews and being offended by it because you aren’t particularly impacted by inflation, crime, job losses, potential military action in the Middle East, etc. You can look at Trump and object to his obvious dementia-driven ravings because you aren’t worried about day to day life.

Objecting to rhetoric is a luxury that Trump’s voters don’t think they have. And this is just such a cluelessness gap with the Democrats that they are going to sleepwalk into yet another loss to Trump. I find it unbelievable. [/quote]

I see.  My lived experience is just rhetoric. Some people count and I’m not one of them.[/quote]

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