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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]“disadvantages” of living in the suburbs? When in reality, they’re precisely the reasons that people CHOOSE to live in the suburbs? I for one, LIKE that my neighborhood has streets you can’t drive through, lacks sidewalks, lacks public transit, has big yards and is mostly houses with few commercial establishments. I don’t want to be able to walk to a bar or 7-eleven, and I don’t want anyone walking from those places to walk through my neighborhood. [/quote]

Because they feel that the preference for the suburbs is objectively wrong, and vociferously making the case will make them feel justified in their increasingly aggressive efforts to impose their own preferences on people.  [/quote]

Objectively, low density, car-dependent, residential-only, cul-de-sac neighborhoods are a disaster for the environment, local government budgets, and societal well-being.

However, if that's what you prefer, that's not objectively wrong. How can a preference be objectively anything? Your feelings are your feelings.[/quote]
Just because you say the word “objectively” does not make it true.

Here is a study that demonstrates that downtown Helsinki residents have more carbon intensive lifestyles than their suburban counterparts. 
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/6/3/034034/pdf

Consumption based emissions are very real and it turns out significantly more important than transportation emissions for household GHG emissions.

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Interesting study. However, I wonder how specific well the results in Helsinki can be extrapolated to other places but concludes The main reason for hire car the carbon consumption in downtown Helsinki is due to the higher income (and greater propensity to consume) of those residents compared to surrounding areas. But I guess the question is whether those same residents would also consume more if they also lived in surrounding areas. If the main conclusion is that people with higher income consume more and hence produce more carbon, then that’s not really news. [/quote]

Ugh. Small screen and clumsy fingers plus predictive keyboard! “hire car” = higher consumption. You can work out the rest. [/quote]

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