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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For many schools it’s the way social life is structured. Eg huge groups of girls and boys sit in a section at football and on the weekends have huge events with other Greek organizations. Then they go on spring break and stay in big houses together. They have sports competitions with other houses and do charity events. If you don’t get involved it can be hard to socialize on some campuses. Now if no one did it that’s one thing. But if all the social people do it at your school you feel like you have to join or won’t have a social life. [/quote]

And this is why I deliberately chose a college with no Greek system at all.  Everyone sat with one another at games, socialized with everyone, and went to any and all parties.  So much more fun.[/quote]

Maybe your memories are a little rosy? I went to schools without Greek life and certain clubs operated like just like frats.

There will always be cliques and a social hierarchy. In the absence of Greek letters, clubs take that place. I was in the most prestigious club at my school and while I love the immediate connection I have when I meet someone who was in that club regardless of their age, I realize that we operated like a fraternity, though we were co-ed. [/quote]

Uh, no.  My memories are crystal clear.  My school did not have the (social) clubs you appear to be referring to, which do indeed operate like frats/sororities (sounds like the Eating Clubs at Princeton, etc.).  Again, there was no social hierarchy at all at my SLAC.   It was a smallish school and by and large, everyone got to know everyone else eventually.  [/quote]

I'm PP. At my school, those clubs were the newspaper, student council, tour guides and the arts programming board. No eating clubs. ~3500 students.

There are always cliques. There's always a hierarchy. [/quote]

NP: My experience is similar to the PP-- I would say at my SLAC of about 1500 students with no Greek life there were groups of friends but no noticeable hierarchy. Sure a sociologist would probably find a way to discern some hierarchy but it was far less than any other environment I've been in.  No clubs signaled anything beyond what you were interested in and none were particularly cool (or not).  Most people knew each other and there weren't popular cliques or anything like that. Most people heard about most parties and would go if they were inclined. It was like if you were one of the few that went there you were part of that group and had a sense of connection to each other just by virtue of that and no smaller divisions were needed.    It was very different from my brother's school (big 10) that was more dominated by Greek life.  [/quote]

So your college was the size of a public high school.  Yikes.  That comes with its own set of problems.  Way too small of a pond.  [/quote]

Well when you’re voluntarily putting yourself into smaller groups like sororities/fraternities, you’re limiting yourself to hanging around with just those people.  So not sure what your point is?
-DP[/quote]

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