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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m an upper middle class professional and a Democrat. For years I’ve been hearing that I should really be Republican for my own self interest. Less taxes and all that. But now this new Trump/Republican tax plan come out and guess what, it complete is not good for me.

Can someone explain?[/quote]

I thought liberals wanted their taxes raised to support those in need. All talk?[/quote]

[b]Only with other people's money.[/b][/quote]

And this is the truth!

The outcry among liberals because it will cost them a few dollars surfaces their hypocrisy. [/quote]

Yet none of you conservatives will admit where the extra tax dollars are going.  Why is that?[/quote]

I'm still waiting for you libs to tell us how much extra you're willing to pay. About three cents?[/quote]
Um, crickets.[/quote]
Talking to conservatives is like banging one's head on the wall. On about eighteen threads liberals have patiently explained we'll gladly pay more IF that money goes to real stuff: cleaning up the environment, stopping climate change, fixing infrastructure, strengthening the support network for those with less. I'd pay an additional 10K.

BUT - and here's the brick wall parts A and B - this gives more money to the super wealthy and corporations and [i]this thread isn't about that.[/i][/quote]

Well then Write a check to the treasury. You're still under the tax structure and spending of the Obama days, because the present administration's bill hasn't passed.   Now get that checkbook out AND WRITE THE CHECK.   Stop yakking and start doing.[/quote]

Not pp. Typical idiot who has no understanding. There is no provision to write checks to Treasury. Besides you are missing the point that Libs want the money to be spent for the right causes. Just giving money to treasury without knowing what it will be spent on is not what we want. Got it? But idiots don't and will repeat again.[/quote]

Actually there is a line on your Fed tax form allowing you to contribute to reduce the deficit. What you are saying is you want smaller government but only focused in the areas you see as important, or don’t ask me for more.  That’s a pipe dream. This bill reduces taxes for those making under 90k by about 75%. If that’s not helping the poor, I don’t know what is. And don’t all people get their first 90k taxed at the really low rate too?  Someone in the DC bubble or other high cost areas will never get it because they think 250k is poor[/quote]

Can you please post the form 1040 which shows the line item to contribute to reduce deficit?

Are you saying that it is fine to take from the middle class and UMC to give estate tax cuts, removal of AMT, Reduction of S-Corp taxes and tax cut for the corporations that are hoarding cash? The removal of medical expense deduction directly affects the middle/lower middle who now have to declare bankruptcy to get Medicaid if they are hit by a huge medical bill. And all this to increase the deficit by trillion of dollars during good times when debt is already 100% of GDP. So when there is a recession what do you do? Just sit tight and let the recession run it’s course? Or Increase the deficit to 200% of the GDP trying to stimulate the economy?

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