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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I read there were wargames with America where Ukraine blew up the dam to stop the Soviets.

People on here were talking about an inevitable Ukraine counteroffensive that would push Russia back.  If this counteroffensive failed, then blowing the dam would stop Russia from going further after beating the counteroffensive.[/quote]

History shows the retreating side blows the dam. [/quote]

That would be Russia.  They're spent, have made no significant progress in 8 months, whereas the Ukrainians are replenished and ready to go on the offensive.[/quote]

Remember when the US fought a twenty year war in Afghanistan and in the end nothing changed.

So far, this Ukraine war is almost ten years on... why not another ten?[/quote]

The reason nothing changed in Afghanistan was because the us wasn’t willing to do what the Chinese do in xinjiang.

It wasn’t a capability issue but an issue of will/resolve and self imposed guardrails

Ukraine will grind on for a decade more because neither side has the capability.

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In other words, the US will make sure Ukraine goes back to the stone age.

Great job Biden lads.[/quote]

The US is not running this war or Ukraine. 
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The US is not running the war, just providing the money, equipment, logistical support, intelligence, satellites, rules of engagement and strategy. The war is over in two weeks if the US bows out. [/quote]

In that scenario, millions of Ukrainians are killed under Russia goal of genocide.

Why is this a good thing, comrade?[/quote]

Russia has never said it wanted to exterminate Ukrainians, and their actions within occupied territories are not consistent with genocidal intent.  But I understand you need to believe that. [/quote]

I am sure that Russia would prefer that Ukrainians simply accept their subservient status as part of the Russian empire.     But given that Ukraine is not going to surrender, Russia believes that it has no choice but to commit genocide.

https://www.justsecurity.org/81789/russias-eliminationist-rhetoric-against-ukraine-a-collection/
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Rhetoric means nothing.  I mean the US says it's all about democracy and human rights, but their international posture and choice of friends speaks otherwise, don't you think?

Look at actions, not words. [/quote]

The Russian Government and military are guilty of War Crimes, chooses North Korea, Iraq and other dictatorships as "friends", so what does that make Russia?  Besides, according to Shoigu, Russia is doing just fine.

"The attempts at an offensive were thwarted, the enemy was stopped," he added. "The enemy did not achieve its goals but suffered significant and incomparable losses."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russias-shoigu-ukraines-counter-offensive-155226283.html

If Shoigu is right, then you shouldn't need to post anymore!  Actions are what matter.  Go do something else.  Go back to work! Have fun!  Drink some Vodka and toast Russia's victory![/quote]

I think you use too few exclamation points.  Use more! That'll make you sound more passionate.

So you're saying it's bad to count dictatorships amongst friends?  Very well.  I'm going to tune into the DOS briefing to hear them say they are severing relations with KSA, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain.  Khalas.  No more trade, no more weapons trading, no more oil, no more nothing.  They are dictators and dictators cannot be our friends.

Cue  "well THAT"s different."[/quote]

I don't remember KSA, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain, etc. using incendiary weapons on civilian cities, or invading neighbor countries and stealing their children, raping their women and murdering the elderly so they could steal what was in their homes?  Can you refresh my memory please?
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Oh I will! With the greatest of pleasures! Remember that war in Yemen that starved thousands of children? Killed a bunch of grown-ups, too? That's America good friends the Al-Saud and Al-Rashid and Al-Maktoum. With American intelligence, supplies and refueling!

And these dumb Bahrainis asking for more participation in the government? Shot down by their own government, with the Saudi and American support? Guess they don't count, being brown and all.

And let's not forget the Al-Saud being the greatest source of the ISIS fighters! Tons of rape, pillage and plunder going on there! See, your memory IS faulty.

Besides, all these things you listed? Democracies dabble in these too! I mean the world's greatest democracy bombed Iraq to the ground and prevents humanitarian shipments and rebuilding of Syria.  God knows how many children and elderly THAT has killed and will kill.

So you see, it gets tricky picking out allies and pretending you have standards.  Every one of them collapses upon close examination. [/quote]

First you said, and I quote "KSA, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain, etc.".  Now you said Yemen.  But, like an idiot, it was Russia who armed Yemen, which is why middle school kids drag around AK-47's in the desert.

Then you wandered off on Al Saud, ISIS and Syria... wow.

Do you have problems staying on topic?  Focusing? Concentrating?

Ever consider meds?[/quote]

What? If only we weren't posting in a forum where the history of the conversation is easily retained.  You said:

"I don't remember KSA, Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain, etc. using incendiary weapons on civilian cities, or invading neighbor countries and stealing their children, raping their women and murdering the elderly so they could steal what was in their homes? Can you refresh my memory please?"

My post was to plug the gaps in your memory and remind you that yes, they did. Your memory is faulty. Yes, invasions, oppression, civilian suffering.   In Yemen, Syria, domestically and in many other places. [/quote]

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