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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Shout out to all the Pro-H Wootton families with the courage to voice their rational opinions and who are putting in a lot of work behind the scenes. We see you, and we believe in you.[/quote]

Shout out to you! I am the Cold Spring, Cabin John, Wootton parent that has been accused of being a troll so I went back to read the beginning of this thread and wanted to point out a few things.

See pages 3-6 where I participated in the beginning of this thread.

Pages 8 - 10 are not me but other Pro Option H Wootton parents that make amazing points.

I come back again on Page 69.

So whether you believe it or not ... Pro Option H Wootton parents exist and we are also being heard. [/quote]

Right. How come none of you bothered to show up to the BOE meeting last week?[/quote]

Just a heads up that there is more than one person responding to you. Also because as was previously stated...it is not that deep for most people. [/quote]

Yeah our children’s educational future is definitely “not that deep”. [/quote]

What exactly will change about your child's educational future that would be negative? All I see are positives... new AV equipment, new chem labs, new computers for AOIT, new athletic spaces....new everything!!! What is the downside from an education perspective? All the same classes, teachers etc just in a new location with better materials....genuine question[/quote]

Seriously, this sounds much better than an old rundown building with mold issues.  Mold can cause long term issues in students and staff so most of us would jump and gladly take the new school.[/quote]

It’s getting combined with at least one but likely more very low performing schools. Not average-very low performing. That’s the problem. Everything about Wootton will change. So no, not everything will be the same. [/quote]

Referring to Rosemount? A 56th percentile school, per MD report card? 
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/E/1/15/0555/0

Mixing with those kids is a fate worse for your children than mold?[/quote]

Did you actually look at the proficiency breakdown for math and english? I’m going to guess no since you clearly looked up the school and posted this but yet still managed to spell the name of the school wrong. Anyway-the kids in this school didn’t even meet 50% proficiency for either of those. That’s awful. [/quote]

Fair enough, that's not great!

Still, I'm kind of taken aback that you consider having maybe 20% of your HS coming from a lower-performing elementary school to be worse for your kids than being exposed to mold. You realize your kid can take mostly APs and avoid those icky low-proficiency kids, right?[/quote]

Wow. You think you are being sarcastic/funny but “icky low proficiency kids” is actually gross. I want my kids going to school with kids that can meet the extremely minimal requirements for proficiency-yes. That doesn’t mean I think these kids are “icky” I think these kids need intensive extra services to get them where they need to be. But not at the expense of my kids. If I wanted my kid to go to GHS-I would have moved to that cluster. [/quote]

You’re the one talking about these kids as if being in the same building with them will somehow harm your child, when in high school students can mostly choose the classes appropriate to their academic level.[/quote]

I don’t think it will harm my child individually, but it will harm the school. The numbers for the school as a whole will go down. That’s how that works. [/quote]

Research, as discussed earlier on this thread, actually indicates that in the aggregate the scores on the lower end will increase, as opposed to the scores on the high end going down.  So...this is a benefit to the lower scoring kids and no harm to the higher scoring kids.

How does a slightly lower test score harm "the school."?[/quote]

You know exactly how lower test scores harm a school-don’t play dumb.

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I genuinely do not.  [/quote]

DP. Yes you do, but equity compels you to pull down high achievers. [/quote]

I genuinely do not.  I never referenced equity, and am not a huge proponent of it the way it is popularly understood today.  I honestly do not know what you even mean by the phrase "harm the school."  The building?  The students?  And if the high achievers stay the same and the low achievers go slightly up....I see no plausible case for harm regardless of what you mean by "the school."[/quote]

I’m not the person you are responding to but it seems like you are genuinely asking so I want to answer in an effort to have a real conversation.

Here’s where I stand as a parent: I too don’t think my individual kid will be impacted and I’m not trying to be braggy—but I don’t think my kid will be impacted because I won’t let it happen and because I understand my kid will have tons of resources like private tutoring.

But make no mistake, the overall test scores and reputation of this new Wootton will be impacted.

Why do I as a parent care if my own child will continue to excel?

College admissions.

The W schools do much better when it comes to elite college admissions (ivies, Stanford, MIT, etc.) than the rest of MCPS. This is just facts. Look at the Naviance data for every school in this county and do a comparison. The kid with the exact same GPA and test score from let’s say QO or Northwestern will not do as well as ones from W schools. That’s why on average you see Princeton accept more W school kids than say kids from Damascus.

Yes I care about my kid going to an elite college. Yes I want to increase their chances as much as possible.

We can agree or disagree about whether or not an Ivy education is worth the cost, but we can’t dispute the fact that the reputation and overall performance of a high school is directly linked to top tier college admissions.

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Tutoring is not that expensive depending on how you do it and not all kids want to go to ivys.  My smart kids have zero interest in applying and I don’t care.  I think you have an easier time not being at a W school as there is less competition.  You cannot just do a straight comparison as my kids preform well but again, zero I Teresa in what you valve and call top schools.  [/quote]

Thank you for a well thought out response. I appreciate having a serious convo without snark.

Sure maybe my kid won’t want to go to an Ivy or a top college, but as a parent I’d like to give them the best shot if they want to pursue this route.

The point of you have less competition anywhere else than W schools is also true but it doesn’t negate the data. Top colleges (not just Ivy but Georgetown, and even UMD) accept more W kids even controlling for portion, gpa, and test scores. Why? Because the reputation of a school matters.

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No, school reputation doesn’t matter and if you have middle of the road kids they are better off for admissions at other schools as there is less competition.  You are absurd to think less of our kids.  [/quote]

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