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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Rejected, but dc isn’t upset. It was not a top choice and they have much better options elsewhere for their intended major. Only applied because we’re in state.[/quote]

So UMD figured that out and protected their yield[/quote]

There’s no way UMCP can figure that out.

The reality is plenty of Marylanders can’t afford to send their high stats kids out of state and desperately want their kids to get into our flagship.

But the reality is certain kids from mcps are simply shut out.

A college counselor I know very well says UMCP is irrationally unpredictable. Pretty much sums it up. [/quote]

I'm a HS teacher and our counselors say that UMCP is the hardest school to predict.  Maybe that's an exaggeration, but they say they are surprised every year, both by the kids who they thought were strong candidates who don't even get Freshmen Connect, and the kids who get honors who they weren't sure would get in.

But the statement that there are kids who "can't afford to send their high stats kids out of state" is confusing.  My kid, who is a solid student but not good enough that applying to UMD made sense, has multiple merit offers that bring the cost of attendance below the in state COA of UMD, and that's before need based aid has been awarded.  [/quote]

Okay.

Step out of your bubble and imagine a family who can’t afford off campus housing (or any housing) and travel. Or maybe they need their 18 year old to live at home to help take care of younger siblings or grandma.

I know a handful of students who received generous merit at schools ranked above UMCP yet were rejected at UMCP. They opted for MC then transferred because even with merit and full rides, housing is quite costly.

PS - All the students I know who were rejected despite impressive stats were white kids from mcps (not W schools).

High school counselors can confirm; or you can google it (some of this came out in the media in recent years…but you need to connect the dots because nobody will say it as clearly as it should be). [/quote]

I don't think that my job teaching high school in a high poverty school puts me in a bubble.  You specifically referenced students who couldn't afford any out of state school, not students who need to stay close for other reasons.  I responded about those students.  Yes, there are students who need to stay close.

You also say that students with "full rides" pay for housing when the definition of a full ride is a scholarship that covers housing.

I don't know what high school counselors can confirm.  I don't think they would know who they are, so I'm not sure how they can confirm that all the students you happen to know who were rejected with high stats were white.  I think I'll just take your word on that.  [/quote]

Do you have any kids away at college?

Off campus housing and living expenses are shockingly expensive. Tons of Maryland parents would prefer to pay in state tuition and have their kids commute (for myriad reasons). This used to be fairly easy for smart kids, and now tons of proud alums have been shut out when their high stats kids are rejected.

Mcps counselors recognize this. UMCP is a total crapshoot: nobody can predict acceptance.

The fact that a kid rejected from UMCP can get a scholarship to schools that are far better ranked is very telling.

And if people included demographics in their posts along with stats (race, school, HHI, etc.), you would have a clearer picture.

Anyway, go take a drive on campus and check out the vibe. Not today obviously since the campus had to shut down due to aged hvac and plumbing. [/quote]

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