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Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

Are you trying to say your house is too big with those bill $, your house is too drafy?

DP

Even THs are getting $400+ heat bills. Big jump in the service fee.

Plus, we pay a premium for everything in MoCo…and the leaders in Annapolis assume everyone in our county is affluent, so we get squeezed to subsidize the rest of the state.

It’s reasonable for longtime residents to be frustrated when their kid gets rejected from UMCP but gets into a handful of objectively better-ranked schools that were a reach. Something isn’t right.

In 3.92 UW, 1520 SAT. Howard County private

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Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

What are soles trap mail in tickets?

Speed camera/traffic light camera tix

Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

What are soles trap mail in tickets?

Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

Are you trying to say your house is too big with those bill $, your house is too drafy?

Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

Paying your utility bills indeed doesn’t not guarantee college admission.

It stings, but hopefully your kid has other options. It will be okay!

Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

Yep.

And did any of your kid’s friends with lesser stats magically get in?

^^^
That’s the even more infuriating thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected, but dc isn’t upset. It was not a top choice and they have much better options elsewhere for their intended major. Only applied because we’re in state.

So UMD figured that out and protected their yield

There’s no way UMCP can figure that out.

The reality is plenty of Marylanders can’t afford to send their high stats kids out of state and desperately want their kids to get into our flagship.

But the reality is certain kids from mcps are simply shut out.

A college counselor I know very well says UMCP is irrationally unpredictable. Pretty much sums it up.

I'm a HS teacher and our counselors say that UMCP is the hardest school to predict. Maybe that's an exaggeration, but they say they are surprised every year, both by the kids who they thought were strong candidates who don't even get Freshmen Connect, and the kids who get honors who they weren't sure would get in.

But the statement that there are kids who "can't afford to send their high stats kids out of state" is confusing. My kid, who is a solid student but not good enough that applying to UMD made sense, has multiple merit offers that bring the cost of attendance below the in state COA of UMD, and that's before need based aid has been awarded.

Okay.

Step out of your bubble and imagine a family who can’t afford off campus housing (or any housing) and travel. Or maybe they need their 18 year old to live at home to help take care of younger siblings or grandma.

I know a handful of students who received generous merit at schools ranked above UMCP yet were rejected at UMCP. They opted for MC then transferred because even with merit and full rides, housing is quite costly.

PS - All the students I know who were rejected despite impressive stats were white kids from mcps (not W schools).

High school counselors can confirm; or you can google it (some of this came out in the media in recent years…but you need to connect the dots because nobody will say it as clearly as it should be).

I don't think that my job teaching high school in a high poverty school puts me in a bubble. You specifically referenced students who couldn't afford any out of state school, not students who need to stay close for other reasons. I responded about those students. Yes, there are students who need to stay close.

You also say that students with "full rides" pay for housing when the definition of a full ride is a scholarship that covers housing.

I don't know what high school counselors can confirm. I don't think they would know who they are, so I'm not sure how they can confirm that all the students you happen to know who were rejected with high stats were white. I think I'll just take your word on that.

Do you have any kids away at college?

Off campus housing and living expenses are shockingly expensive. Tons of Maryland parents would prefer to pay in state tuition and have their kids commute (for myriad reasons). This used to be fairly easy for smart kids, and now tons of proud alums have been shut out when their high stats kids are rejected.

Mcps counselors recognize this. UMCP is a total crapshoot: nobody can predict acceptance.

The fact that a kid rejected from UMCP can get a scholarship to schools that are far better ranked is very telling.

And if people included demographics in their posts along with stats (race, school, HHI, etc.), you would have a clearer picture.

Anyway, go take a drive on campus and check out the vibe. Not today obviously since the campus had to shut down due to aged hvac and plumbing.

$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:UMCP has old, gross housing.

ICYMI: they just shut down the campus due to lack of heat and water in the prehistoric dorms.

And be sure to google recent criminal activity on Route 1. I personally know of two students who were assaulted, and I don’t even have student on campus.

Signed,

Terp alum who still attends sporting events but thinks the campus needs an upgrade

What about all the new construction they are doing

I'm thinking the ^PP hasn't been in the dorms recently.

My kid was at Pyon Chen, and it was amazing. Pretty big, bright, right next to the Y. Bathrooms were great. They're now at the View.

My younger DC has toured other colleges, and their dorms don't compare to Pyon Chen. DC says we were spoiled with Pyon Chen. IMO, a lot of univ have not so great dorms.

As a PP stated, UMD is renovating other dorms.

Also, lots of colleges have assaults and petty theft. It's awful, but I wouldn't single out UMD for this.

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Anonymous wrote:Rejected, but dc isn’t upset. It was not a top choice and they have much better options elsewhere for their intended major. Only applied because we’re in state.

So UMD figured that out and protected their yield

There’s no way UMCP can figure that out.

The reality is plenty of Marylanders can’t afford to send their high stats kids out of state and desperately want their kids to get into our flagship.

But the reality is certain kids from mcps are simply shut out.

A college counselor I know very well says UMCP is irrationally unpredictable. Pretty much sums it up.

I'm a HS teacher and our counselors say that UMCP is the hardest school to predict. Maybe that's an exaggeration, but they say they are surprised every year, both by the kids who they thought were strong candidates who don't even get Freshmen Connect, and the kids who get honors who they weren't sure would get in.

But the statement that there are kids who "can't afford to send their high stats kids out of state" is confusing. My kid, who is a solid student but not good enough that applying to UMD made sense, has multiple merit offers that bring the cost of attendance below the in state COA of UMD, and that's before need based aid has been awarded.

Okay.

Step out of your bubble and imagine a family who can’t afford off campus housing (or any housing) and travel. Or maybe they need their 18 year old to live at home to help take care of younger siblings or grandma.

I know a handful of students who received generous merit at schools ranked above UMCP yet were rejected at UMCP. They opted for MC then transferred because even with merit and full rides, housing is quite costly.

PS - All the students I know who were rejected despite impressive stats were white kids from mcps (not W schools).

High school counselors can confirm; or you can google it (some of this came out in the media in recent years…but you need to connect the dots because nobody will say it as clearly as it should be).

I don't think that my job teaching high school in a high poverty school puts me in a bubble. You specifically referenced students who couldn't afford any out of state school, not students who need to stay close for other reasons. I responded about those students. Yes, there are students who need to stay close.

You also say that students with "full rides" pay for housing when the definition of a full ride is a scholarship that covers housing.

I don't know what high school counselors can confirm. I don't think they would know who they are, so I'm not sure how they can confirm that all the students you happen to know who were rejected with high stats were white. I think I'll just take your word on that.

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Anonymous wrote:I will be curious to learn if they are favoring out of state applicants rather than in state applicants.

How many are they "required" to take in in-state? If it's a high %, doesn't leave much for OSS

Required to take 70% in state

22% OOS enrolled last year? And 8% OOS who were accepted but didn't attend?

Are you saying they had a 92% yield? I am not sure what you mean by 8% OOS didn't attend?

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Anonymous wrote:UMCP has old, gross housing.

ICYMI: they just shut down the campus due to lack of heat and water in the prehistoric dorms.

And be sure to google recent criminal activity on Route 1. I personally know of two students who were assaulted, and I don’t even have student on campus.

Signed,

Terp alum who still attends sporting events but thinks the campus needs an upgrade

What about all the new construction they are doing

They destroyed the campus by allowing the purple line monstrosity run through the heart of the campus.

Beyond the visual impact, crime is up.

Campus much better now that most the construction related to the purple line is done.
Where do you get these crime statistics?

If you follow local social media, you can see it in real time.

You mean that fight that happened outside a bar at 1am? Dont think that's unique to UMD.

What about the brawl during daytime at the chicken restaurant? Or the girl who got jumped at Taco Bell?

PS - The sexual assaults and crime on campus never make it to PG County police level since campus police has jurisdiction and “handles it.”

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Anonymous wrote:UMCP has old, gross housing.

ICYMI: they just shut down the campus due to lack of heat and water in the prehistoric dorms.

And be sure to google recent criminal activity on Route 1. I personally know of two students who were assaulted, and I don’t even have student on campus.

Signed,

Terp alum who still attends sporting events but thinks the campus needs an upgrade

What about all the new construction they are doing

They destroyed the campus by allowing the purple line monstrosity run through the heart of the campus.

Beyond the visual impact, crime is up.

Campus much better now that most the construction related to the purple line is done.
Where do you get these crime statistics?

If you follow local social media, you can see it in real time.

You mean that fight that happened outside a bar at 1am? Dont think that's unique to UMD.

How far into wait list do they go?