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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This Berkeley dead car bounce is quite impressive. People are having a hard time giving up that ghost, I guess.[/quote]

It does not really matter what you think because it is a top 15 USNWR school and in most rankings. Its close to Silicon Valley and is one of the schools with the largest number of startups. This year 4 profs received Nobel Prizes (one did his undergrad there). Its programs are all in top 5 for both STEM and humanities. The list goes on. The undergrad experience might not be elite but the opportunities are there for those who want to seize them. [/quote]

I wouldn't consider it a top school for undergraduates because of the well documented shortcomings but for the right kids the opportunities are there, especially in the tech world.[/quote]

Huh. This isn't 1990's or early 2000'seven.  Engineering and Tech is significant in today's world . They are top 5 for that.  End of story. Yes, the English lit, business or biology majors can go to any small liberal arts school.  There are hundreds.  But the top Eng/Tech schools have a category/place all to their own.[/quote]

UCB is one of many excellent tech schools. For undergraduate eduction it has many well documented shortcomings. The only real advantage over any of 30 other undergraduate engineering schools is proximity. At the undergraduate level you can get all of the advantages of UCB and none of the downsides by going to Santa Clara University.

For graduate work UCB is truly elite.[/quote]

berkeley yield is shit for a reason[/quote]

Cornell has a yield of 63%, Vanderbilt 55% and that includes ED rounds so high 40s yield with no ED is not that bad. [/quote]

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