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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The atheists who post here are usually far more close minded and tedious than the atheists I know in real life. They engage in patronizing, gross oversimplifications and reductive thinking that actually puts me off atheism. I remain open to agnosticism since we can’t prove metaphysical beliefs one way or the other. [/quote]

You've expressed your opinion, and now I'll express mine:  I don't care if your characterization of anything anyone says here "puts you off atheism".  I hope no one is religious or non-religious because they were "put off" by someone.  I think being put off by someone is a terrible reason for believing or not believing.

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We know a tree by the fruits it bears.

I pay a lot of attention to character.  Not a religious literalist and don’t resonate with dogmatism in either religion or atheism. [/quote]

There's no dogmatism in atheism because there's no dogma.  It's simply lack of belief in theism (any religion).[/quote].

Many of the atheists who post here are extremely dogmatic, patronizing and unnecessarily antagonistic. [/quote]

If you are a religious person who is sure you are right, despite total lack of evidence and lots of faith, then simply ignore anyone who doesn't see things your way.
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I have good friends and family members IRL who are atheists. We have wonderful relationships based on mutual respect.

Many atheists who post in this forum are extremely patronizing and disrespectful with a disdain for nuance. [/quote]

How would you describe the "believers" who post often on this forum? 
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One glaring difference I have noticed is that a majority of religious posters speak only for themselves and their path to religion while many atheist posters appear to speak for not only for themselves, but for all of atheism and the many different kinds of religious beliefs and experiences. Further religion as a whole is conflated with evangelism and biblical literalists.

This could be just a few obsessed atheists doing other atheists a disservice though. [/quote]

I was asking about “believers”.

How would you describe the tone of their posts? 
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As reflected in the observation that they usually just speak for themselves or their specific faith tradition, they have diverse tones. I am not comfortable with biblical literalism, proselytization or evangelism and don’t resonate with dogmatic takes from either religious people or atheists. I just see less less overarching dogma from the religious posters in this forum.

Dogma can be both secular and religious. The Latin word dogma means “philosophical tenet” derived from Ancient Greek (dógma, “opinion, tenet”). [/quote]
Just look at the diversity of "believer" opinions in the "submit to your husbands" thread. Yes, there are some believers over there who are arguing that traditional marriage is good, but many of the religious posters there have explained that:
-there are different interpretations of the verse that are less trad-wife-y
-the verse is part of the liturgy of their wedding day, but doesn't actually play a part in their marriage (goes in one ear and out the other for the couple at the altar)
-Paul is problematic
-Most Christians are not fundamentalists
-the context of the time in which Jesus lived and the Gospels were written matters
-the full verse matters

The religious posters on that thread are usually identifying their specific religion. It's notable then, that OP didn't identify what denomination of Christianity (since it's from Paul, it must have been a Christian wedding) the wedding was.[/quote]

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