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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Columbia isn't even a real Ivy. [/quote]

Fake or no, it’s known as [b]one of the weakest Ivies[/b]. That’s fine as long as expectations are realistic. Students who expect a HYPSM level experience or job outcomes are usually disappointed.[/quote]

One of the weakest Ivies?  What are other weakest ivies?  Princeton and Penn?[/quote]

Cornell and Columbia are the weakest Ivies. Throwing a tantrum won't change that. [/quote]

You're wrong.  Here is the ranking based on "academic research performance" and "reputations."

In the 2022–2023 U.S. News & World Report Best Global University Ranking, five Ivies rank in the top 20: Harvard (#1), Columbia (#7), Yale (#11), Penn (#15), and Princeton (#16)—ranks that U.S. News says are based on "indicators that measure their academic research performance and their global and regional reputations."[/quote]

Look I couldn’t care less whether Cornell or Columbia is a “weaker” Ivy.   But citing USNWR reputation score as proof is laughable.  It’s purely opinion and is reason #1 out of about 500 why USNWR rankings are not only meaningless but affirmatively harmful.   People calling to the rankings that support what they want to believe and eschew the ones that undermine what they want to believe.  [/quote]

Sure people can disagree about the worth of college rankings.  But people saying it's weaker than other Ivies should cite actual data and its performance against other Ivies.  It accepted 3.9% of applicants in 2023.  Somehow I don't think kids are clamoring to get into a school that is that weak. [/quote]

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