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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Some of the comments are amusing. People really, greatly, hugely, exaggerate the ability of a mere Ivy degree to get you a great job. on here might want to believe. It barely exists[/b]. If anything, it's better at UVA than Columbia. [/quote]

Do you have any data to back this up?[/quote]

This is directly my experience, as a lower middle class Ivy grad. In fact I think there is very little class mingling at an Ivy except for dating and maybe sports (I am not an athlete so don’t know —- it may be exceptional skill not just team membership that gives you an in?). From what I’ve seen most people are using their parents snd elite high school network (deeper relationships with shared history) and don’t need to interact with college network. [/quote]

The cliques at elite colleges are pretty stratified. Maybe everyone sort of parties with each other, but the rich kids, or more specifically the rich kids' parents, are not sticking their neck out to get the middle class token "friend" some plum job. There was a book a while back about Yale graduates. The lower class guy in a group of Yale friends was invited to be a groomsman at weddings and yet after college he was back to his dumpy hometown. The lower class guy ended up getting murdered in his hometown because he was selling drugs or something low class like this, while his ritzy friends were in Manhattan with plum jobs.[/quote]

Meh. All the middle class HYPS athletes we know are crushing it professionally. No one has to stick their neck out much to get the Yale rower a job. [/quote]

Rowing isn’t a middle class sport [/quote]

Yep, here's Harvard's rowing roster:

https://gocrimson.com/sports/mens-heavyweight-rowing/roster

Does that look like a listing of "middle class" public schools to you?[/quote]

Harvard shares the Charles River with public high schools including urban schools in Boston and Cambridge.   You are out of touch. [/quote]

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