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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Not surprising. I am a 51 year old lapsed Catholic. I would like to go back to church, but there's simply so much history and issues continuing in the present day that make it hard for me to do so. And much harder to explain to my children why it's imperative that we attend Mass every Sunday when in truth I am pro-choice, don't believe the arguments in favor of natural family planning, support women being priests, and don't think the Catholic church has done near enough to address its historical abuses. To keep family peace and tradition both of my kids will be confirmed and then I feel pretty much done. I may explore another denomination.[/quote]

You would be warmly welcomed at an Episcopal Church and likely find many former Catholics in the pews who have similar stories to yours. I hope you can find a way to continue to embrace the parts of your faith that bring you peace and community.  [/quote]

And no valid apostolic succession or sacraments. [/quote]

No apostolic succession because Episcopalians don't have a Pope.  They do have sacraments, but you're not condemned to hell for not receiving them[/quote]

Yes apostolic succession. The chain was never broken in the reformation. [/quote]

See Leo XIII, Apostolicae Curae, declaring Anglican “Orders” “absolutely null and utterly void” because of, among other things, changes in the Edwardine Ordinal that negated the sacrificial nature of the priesthood/episcopate. Later efforts to restore apostolic succession via additional changes and inclusion of bishops from the Dutch Old Catholics are doubtful because, among other things, there is still ambiguity as to what bishops are being ordained to do. 
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Leo XIII was from a line that Anglicans don't recognize. That's how schisms work. [/quote]

How convenient.

Particularly given that the Elizabethan Settlement essentially created a “big tent” where people can believe most anything they want and everybody just ignores the differences and never mentions.

Enough Anglicans recognized Leo XiII and his view of Anglican “orders” that they sought reordination according to the Roman Pontifical from bishops validly ordained in the line(s) stemming from the See of Utrecht or as noted incorporated the “Dutch Touch” into their Anglican ordinations after the Anglican Ordinal was revised in an effort to correct the problematic Edwardian changes. [/quote]

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