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Founding fathers were Christian.[/quote]

Some were, but many were deists.

[i]Many of the founding fathers—Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Madison and Monroe—practiced a faith called Deism. Deism is a philosophical belief in human reason as a reliable means of solving social and political problems.[/i]

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-founding-fathers-religious-wisdom/

Thomas Paine was an atheist.  But none of that matters, because they explicitly and purposefully avoided any Christian references in the founding documents.  If that was so important to them, why did they do that?

[quote]Jesus's golden rule came from a JEWISH golden rule.[/quote]

Again, this thread is about the US government, which does not include the "golden rule", but evidence was presented above that shows that idea pre-dating Judaism as well.

[quote]And what contemporaneous records prove Socrates existed?  Thanks.   :lol: [/quote]

We're talking about ideas, not historicity of the author, but if for the purposes of this discussion I will concede that Plato totally invented him, since it is irrelevant.

[i] “As the government of the United States of America is not [b]in any sense founded on the Christian Religion[/b]"[/i] - Treaty of Tripoli, ratified into international law by President John Adams, who I will presume knew better than any of us here.[/quote]

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