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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Nextdoor had a whole thing on the Fessenden traffic light. People who have made complete stops and counted to three  (or higher) have still received tickets. Contest it. There were multiple complaints about that one on Nextdoor. [/quote]

People on that Nextdoor thread alleged that but of course you also need to completely stop behind the stop bar which is the other thing most drivers don't do (besides not stopping).

Here is the thing - if you got a stop sign citation there is an on-line video! That you can share and prove you were improperly cited.

The outraged guy who started the Nextdoor thread actually had the decency to share his video and guess what - he coasted right through the stop sign!  He didn't even get close to the spirit of a legal stop to say nothing of the actual letter of the law.

There is a guy on that thread who has now posted 2 30-40 second videos he shot at 44th and Fessenden and in neither video does even a single driver make a legal stop and only a couple of drivers even come close.

The guy over in Crestwood who is outraged he got 3 citations at 17th and Blagden and has been bloviating on the Crestwood listserve for months also shared all 3 of his video citations and guess what - he also didn't come close to a legal stop!  He doesn't even claim in interviews that he actually made legal stops just that it is outrageous and unfair that the law is being strictly enforced.

Here are the 3 videos:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wTBMmn9jyBpnIIH2q5mi75UMuT11ast_/view

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NVt7GKwsF0A0T4-NlXsJBJ3LoLQHWGGA/view
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NP here who doesn’t even live in that area, so please don’t attack me. What’s wrong with these stops? From this angle, it seems like the driver came to a complete stop, albeit a brief one. [/quote]

No they didn't.  They slowed to a crawl and then sped back up.  A car coming to a complete stop, even a brief one, will rock backward when its forward momentum disappears.[/quote]

Looked like a stop to me. What additional safety is gained by waiting four seconds?[/quote]

I love crossing as a pedestrian when people "come to a stop" but are really just rolling at me as I cross.

Be happy with a ticket. If it was up to me...[/quote]

Was there a pedestrian there at the time?  Haven't seen the video.  If there was, then the operator shoud definitely get a failure to yield ticket, which presumably costs more, and points.  That's the type of infraction we need enforcement of.  If there wasn't then I don't understand.  It is safer to have a little momentum when turning into an intersection with oncoming traffic.  Especially considering the rampant speeding.[/quote]

Here a deal: no more tickets for rolling a stop sign when no one is around, but cameras on EVERY stop sign and crosswalk that give tickets every time when a pedestrian is around.  Sound good?

I've got Elon Musk working on the algorithm, which will be ready by the time I'm mayor.  Vote for me.[/quote]

Well then you'll be pleased to know that a simple proximity sensor is all that's needed to do that.  The exact same sensor that's already being used in order to trigger the camera in the first place.   Far less complicated than trying to determine whether something is or is not a complete stop.

It's time to catch all the failure to yield scofflows.  We can then use facial recognition software to catch all the cyclists. [/quote]

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