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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Does Islam impose a higher moral standard for how you treat other Muslims than for how you treat non-Muslims?[/quote]

Not OP but Another Muslim poster: nope- a person is a person. [/quote]

My grad school friend's roommate wouldn't shake my hand because as a non-believer I was unclean. I thought there were special tax rules and protected statuses for People of the Book vs. atheists and polytheists, too?[/quote]

Was the Muslim a man or a woman? What are you? Muslims aren't supposed to shake hands of the opposite sex, but it has nothing to do with being unclean.

Muslims pay zakat. 
Christians and Jews living in an Islamic state paid jizyah. Muslim rulers in India extended the tax on Hindus and Sikhs. I don't know if it exists anywhere today.[/quote]

OP here: Muslims ARE allowed to shake the hands of the opposite sex. The Quran never, not once, states this is forbidden. Because the Quran states that there should be modesty between men and women, people have inferred it must mean there must be absolutely no touching at all between people of the opposite sex. This is ridiculous. It's just more ignorance that is rampant in our Muslim communities.  [/quote]

Can I ask what school of law you follow? Or are you a Qu'ranist? Because all four madhabs of Sunni Islam state it is impermissible for men and women to shake hands, with some very limited exceptions. If you are a Qu'ranist, that's fine. But that is a very small minority view of Islam. To call other Sunnis who follow the four major schools of law ignorant is just wrong.[/quote]

OP here: You must be the Muslim that stated it is impermissible for men and women to shake hands. Are you Muslim? First of all, I honestly couldn't care less which freakin' madhab says what. The Quran takes precedence in importance and reliability over any madhab ruling and it is complete and provides the final say in all matters. The Quran does not prohibit any man or woman from shaking hands. It requires modesty and that's it. How on earth do Muslims stretch modesty to include forbidding shaking hands? For God's sake, we Muslims need to chill. This is total ignorance. Shaking hands isn't going to cause any man or woman to have sexual desires to bed that other person and if it does, that man or woman needs therapy, not extreme restrictions imposed on them.

Moreover, there are millions of Muslims that work in non Muslim countries and are reaping the benefits of working in nonMuslim countries but wearing 'western' attire and shaking hands with people of the opposite sex in order to continue reaping these benefits. If you don't like it, the best thing to do is to go back to a strict Muslim country where such strict rules are imposed and followed. But the U.S. is not the place for Muslims who believe in such things. Our culture here is just not conducive to practicing such a strict interpretation of Islam.[/quote]

Here's the thing. I agree with you in a lot of ways about how Islam can and should be practiced in accordance with the prevailing culture. But I do take issue with your calling millions of Muslims ignorant when they are following their school of law. It's like telling Christians they are ignorant in following the Nicene  Creed. You could be a little more respectful in your answers and still get your point across.[/quote]

OP Here:  The vast majority of Muslim people in Muslim countries are illiterate...therefore ignorance is widespread in such countries. Sorry if this hurts you. But you need to face the facts and the truth. It is what it is. Call it for what it is instead of trying to hide our Muslim peoples problems. It is also very irritating to see Muslims like you, ultra strict conservative Muslims, barge in on another person's thread and answer the questions the OP should be answering herself. I started this thread for a reason, to let nonMuslims know what real Islam is about based on our Quran. You came on here and started spouting off extremely strict interpretations of Islam, based not on the Quran but on man made rules.  I am pretty active in our Muslim community and I can assure you that all Muslims shake the hands of people of the opposite sex when they are in the workplace. It's when they go to their respective mosques that they suddenly and magically become strict interpreters of Islam and avoid shaking each other's hands. That is total hypocrisy. If it was truly so forbidden I doubt they would shake each other's hands at work either. Show me where in the Quran it says we can't shake hands with the opposite sex. Remember the Quran is the final word. It takes precedence over all other books.[/quote]

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