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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m no American patriot but it’s surprising to me to hear people say that Eastern European women and women in other patriarchal cultures are a good standard to hold yourself to. Yay for you if you like looking hot (I definitely do sometimes) but the reason that Russian women are expected to look beautiful is because of sexist attitudes. [b]I think I read that in Russia[/b], [b]most young women believe that attractiveness is the best quality for a woman to have and older women believe that being a good homemaker is the best quality for a woman to have. D[/b]omestic violence that doesn’t cause major injury is legal in Russia. [b]Abortion is heavily restricted, they just barely lifted restrictions on women having certain jobs,[/b] and Putin makes rape jokes. And then people are saying “hey you frumpy American women, these Russian woman can look hot, so should you.” What???

I’m happy to live in a place where women are, generally speaking, considered their own humans and not just an adornment for men. (And I applaud Russian feminists who are working hard to change things)

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You think you read that? What a load of crap! If anything, this country should worry about abortions and job equality way more that Russia does.

Signed,
-A Russian female with a PhD.[/quote]

It was in the Moscow times.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/03/07/whos-to-blame-for-gender-stereotypes-in-russia-a64744[/quote]

Do you know that Russia is the most highly educated country in the world? 63% of young people are college educated. In US, only 37% of the entire population (all ages) is college educated. 54.58 percent of Russian women are employed vs. 46.8 in US - not a Russian. [/quote]
DP.. and therein lies the rub.

These women are educated, smart, but they have limited opportunities in those countries.  I don't blame them for marrying rich old guys.

[b]Culturally, though, EE women are still more conservative and hold more traditional values compared to the US.[/b]  Maybe that's part of their appeal to those men.[/quote]

Not true; I find American women much more traditional and conservative, hence why the early childhood education places are such an issue here, as most assume women would SAH after having kids. EE has a much higher % of kids born outside the marriage  - Slovenia almost 60%, Czech republic 49%, Bulgaria 59%. In US, the rate is only 40% and UMC people raise their eyebrows at this anyway. Also, there is much less mass hysteria all over Europe about fidelity, like it is here. There is also no stigma associated with abortions, and Russian women have 4 times more abortions than Americans. My mom had several and it was NBD. I also Bf-ed my kids until they were 4 years old and my childhood friend until hers was 5 years old and nobody had a panic attack or freaked out looking at lactating breasts in public.  It's perfectly appropriate to go topless at the beach and nobody blinks an eye. Try this in the US. IMO, knowing both cultures, I think Americans are a repressed mess who have very regressive and conservative ideas about almost everything. I haven't met a woman who cannot orgasm from PIV until I came here to US.

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