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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I honestly do not understand how people think that Democrats can support closing schools for well over a year, berate parents raising concerns, and see no electoral consequences.[/quote]

I honestly don’t see how Republicans can stage a violent insurrection on the Capitol and then have the rest of the party whitewash it and support changes to state election laws in the name of election fraud than never occurred and face no election consequences.[/quote]

Exactly.

Summer 2020 - local school districts decide to take cautious approach to deadly, global pandemic in light of parents/teachers concerns and a lot of uncertainty. After surge subsided & teachers are vaccinated (and willing to go back), kids are back in building. Following CDC safety guidelines. At the state level schools can open. Districts are free to decide based on local conditions.

January 2021 - Trump supporters storm the Capitol, goaded by Trump and his Big Lie. People are killed. Pipe bombs placed at DNC/RNC headquarters. We are fearful in our home as we hear about stashes of weapons nearby. After this, the GOP still continues to push The Big Lie with legislation to address “election integrity” by restricting voters and election officials.

But yeah the Ds are the bad guys here. Unbelievable. 
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Your version of "Summer" 2020 is a revisionist fantasy so it is impossible to take you seriously. [/quote]

Which part was inaccurate? It was spot on. 
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The return of kids to school was not linked to any surge (look at the timing). Teachers were prioritized ahead of far more vulnerable population groups for vaccines but did not go back; in fact refused to go back. The timing was not "Summer 2020," it was approximately 18 months of time.

You also left off the enormous amount of documented learning loss that has impacted the most vulnerable children in the state the most, and the fact that there appears to be little documented evidence of outbreaks tied to school globally, and the fact that Democratic policies with respect to covid did not (and still do not) appear to be grounded in science. [/quote]

Summer 2020 (July / August) - school districts decided to start off virtual
Fall 2020 - schools feared impending surge - stick with virtual
January 2021 - teachers can get vaccine, #s start declining dramatically 
February / March 2021 - schools start bringing kids back into classroom

Learning loss is huge and needs to be addressed. But that doesn’t change the fact that schools had a reasonable approach then given knowledge and resources at that time. 
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Wow. You really believe your version of pandemic school closure history. It's just not true, but it is remarkable how strongly you believe it.[/quote]

This.  The PP’s account isn’t how it happened at all.  [/quote]

It’s spot on. What part is incorrect? 
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Here is what really happened:

Summer 2020. Schools decide to start virtually despite very low cases and without support of scientific evidence. They make no plans for in person or even an attempted in-person, including no accommodation or even consideration for highly at-risk children. Because no plans are made and no work is done, opening in-person will not be possible. The CDC does not endorse virtual school. Respected pediatrician groups and education advocates across the country sound the alarm about the harms of extended virtual learning, but are ignored.

Fall 2020. Delta cases pick up, but the case rate in most of VA remains comparatively low. Virtual school is in session. Large numbers of at-risk children do not log in once. Reports of DV against children rise. Children who are wealthy do fine, for the most part. Women pick up the pace of leaving jobs, dropping out of the workforce in larger numbers. Meanwhile, scientific evidence starts to accumulate from states and countries where kids remained in school that school is not a large driver of covid transmission in the community. Any criticism that keeping kids out of school is not grounded in available scientific evidence and is disproportionately and severely hurting the most vulnerable children is met with inflammatory responsive language from unions and Democratic politicians. In-person childcare remains open and is not seen as a major driver of community transmission. Bars and restaurants remain open. Private schools return in-person with very little evidence of significant transmission at school. VA hospitals are not overwhelmed with perhaps a few exceptions in the south.

Winter 2021. Covid cases start to increase, likely tied to holiday season and indoor gathering and Delta. Teachers unions negotiate for and win significant vaccine preference, ahead of disabled people and people over age 50 (who are, as a group, much more vulnerable), but oppose vaccine mandates for teachers.

Spring 2021. Zoom in a room begins for some kids. In-person actual teaching is limited. For the most part, children do not have access to regular in-person learning. Unions strongly advocate not to return despite the vaccine preference ahead of much more vulnerable groups. Cases drop as people get vaccinated and indoor gatherings abate as the weather warms, but unions and some Democrats start talking more about virtual school until all children are vaccinated and vaccination is mandated for kids (but not teachers). Some kids get a minimal amount of in-person learning; most do not. Vulnerable kids are not prioritized, and many go the entire year being totally missing from the school system. Overwhelming evidence of extreme learning loss, especially among the most vulnerable kids, accumulates. Educationally, the year is mostly a loss except for wealthy children. The education gap is significantly exacerbated. [/quote]

Also: the inflammatory responsive language was overtly misogynist.[/quote]

Ok and? Zero of that disputes what I said. 
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