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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Where Top 3 Tech CEO's of today went to school for undergraduate engineering and their global rankings:

1. Google - Sundar Pichai: IIT Chennai, ranked #275 (followed by a Stanford masters degree)

2. Microsoft - Satya Nadella: Manipal Institute of technology, ranked #1056 (followed by masters from UW-Milwaukee - rank #300, and MBA from Chicago-Booth)

3. IBM - Arvind Krishna: IIT Kanpur, ranked #350 (followed by MS, PhD UIUC)

Right, so according to DCUM experts these gentlemen couldn't get into Top 10 or Ivy's for undergraduate and so they were doomed for life to sit in that dark cubicle earning $75k. Oh, and look at that Microsoft CEO who did his Masters in Engineering from lowly UW-Milwaukee, isn't that just a low ranked regional center of U-Wisconsin .. LOL

What business these people have in getting jobs at these companies, let alone rise to the top. Folks, get a grip, a HS may not get into some school because they are too young to realize their true potential, many are focused on sports, video games, and just plain enjoying being teens. There is a reason why majors don't need to be declared before Junior year in college, at age 20, that's when they truly start realizing their capabilities and what they want to do with it.  Shame on those of you who try to insult the kids who couldn't get into UVA or UMD as incapable of doing anything better in their life. You must be a really sad parent. Some kids who go to any state school will do very well, if they realize their capabilities later in life, some won't, and some who go to top schools will drop out, burn out, or will not materialize the promise they once showed. That's life. [/quote]

This argument is a bit disingenuous.  
- The three gentlemen you name probably did not have access to HYP or any American schools at the time they went to college  (Ask me how I know).   I'm about the same age as them and I know of very few kids (those who had uncles or aunts in the US) that came to the US.  This was pre-Y2K/pre-Internet/pre-outsourcing days.  No one cared about India. I recall reading articles by western "experts" about how Indians are not good at management, etc.  :roll: 
- Any of them (and thousands of others) could have gotten into any of the top schools if they had applied. As an undergrad, there was close to zero financial aid/scholarships and most parents could not afford to send their kids to study here.  When I was applying for grad school back in the 90's, the cost of applying to Yale and one other school cost me a month's salary.  I had to borrow money from the bank at 22% interest rate (zero financial aid for business school) to come study here. Lots of barriers.
- Most of us looked at grad school as an easy way to enter the US.  Didn't care which school since I didn't really need the education.  It was just the easiest way in.  The less pedigree the university had, the easier it was to get in.
- While the IITs may be ranked lower in whatever ranking system these numbers came out of, their admit rates even back then were way lower than any of the top schools in the US.  80% of the TJ kids will not be able to get into the IITs today.  There are more IITs now but back then, I think it was 1600 kids admitted out of 3-400 thousand applicants (today it's about 10,000 out of 1.3 million applying).  A friend of mine who was ranked in the 1500s (and therefore was "only" able to get into their chemistry program (vs. engineering) is to this day one of the smartest people I have come across - never really studied, always getting into trouble with the teachers, but always got the best grades.  
- Almost ALL are admitted on academic merit, and most can run circles around the best grads coming out of the top US schools.

Having said that, I'd agree with your basic premise - anyone can be successful if they put their mind to it and the school they go to does not matter.  Going to a higher ranked school is about increasing the odds of success and giving them a headstart.  I'd gladly pay full price to send my kid to CMU for CS over MD (if the get in, of course) because... why not?

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