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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Maybe, just maybe, the people on this listserve should ask how the students (and parents of the students) who will now be mandated to take these classes feel?  Do they think it's a good idea?  Are they excited?  Hopeful?  Upset? Outraged?

Maybe, just maybe, it shouldn't be centered around how those who are privileged by the current system feel about the changes without knowing how those who are disadvantaged feel.... [/quote]

This!  The curriculum should be set by students’ feelings![/quote]

I assume this is sarcasm...and that you think that the curriculum should be set by the privileged families of the kids who have the greatest chance of succeeding in a broken system.[/quote]

I think the curriculum should be set by adults looking out, first and foremost, for the educational interests of all the individual students.

I don’t think adults who come up with faux, superficial solutions to complex problems putting education first.  See the PPs above who articulate clearly the dishonesty of the “AP for All” scheme.[/quote]

Right...but I think the point of the previous poster was that we should be centering the conversation around what the families of the disadvantaged kids think about this policy, not what we think.[/quote]

I am not sure why. Wilson has 2000 students and they should all count. I am not sure why educating kids must be a zero sum thing, where some kids gain only if others are screwed. issues that people have raised on this thread are relevant for many normal kids, not just the one Nobel-prize-in -waiting genius.

I do agree that all voices should be heard and certainly those of disadvantage kids too. Did the school organize a school wide zoom conference? an open air meeting somewhere? did they ask the community to give input, discuss, ask questions, raise concern (and I include families of disadvantage kids, who will be affected by this change)? absolutely not. just a surprised email on a Sunday night and that's it. so instead of blaming the privileged white parents on DCUM, it was the principal and the school itself that did not give a damn about what families think, including families of disadvantage children. [/quote]

I don't necessarily think it's a zero-sum game...I think many of the other posters ASSUME it's a zero-sum game based on their impressions of what the needs/aptitudes are of disadvantaged kids.  And, with those assumptions, they decide that their kids might lose something (and to the degree that they think about what others might get, it's again based assumptions).  I agree that more parental input would have been a great idea...I also would just love if the discussion here (and on DCUM more generally) weren't always centered on the needs of our white UMC kids. And--again--"not centered"  does not mean "not considered"...[/quote]

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