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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I never jump into these stupid debates and did not read the prior posts, but for this one I have to, because the OP betrays the total ignorance about history, women's rights, and the role of women in society.

It is not just about what you, Cindy Lou, decide to do with your career once you have kids.  It's about the bigger picture, and the fact that when women are not able to, for various reasons, combine career with family, or when we collectively as a society start to spin a narrative that children are hurt when women work, then women feel pressured to drop out, or guilted into dropping out, or forced into it, and then women (and children) suffer the consequences, for example:

-when you have only male OB/GYNs who force you into c-sections and many other procedures because of a lack of understanding or care for what women face 
-when there is less money given in the budget process of government to education, or protection for families, because men typically value these things less 
-- when you get no paid maternity leave because CEOs are all men and so are the legislators 
-- when scientists run studies only on male subjects because they assume women are the same
-- when rape kids go untouched because it's simply not a priority for police departments (mostly male)
-when you have no access to birth control because male legislators don't value it

I could go on and on.  All of the above is part of our history and was part of our reality for hundreds/thousands of years.  This is why women have fought to be in the workplace.  So when SAHMs start talking about "who cares when women aren't part of the workforce," well that is just completely stupid. [/quote]

Mic drop, girl. And this is the fundamental issue I have with SAHMs. They are so freaking selfish and narrow-minded. THIS IS WHAT THE WOMEN WHO CAME  BEFORE US FOUGHT FOR. but they can’t see the societal consequences (which you so brilliantly outlined).[/quote]

Eye roll. This feminist crap makes me ill. [/quote]

That's because you are selfish.  [/quote]

eh, you've just substituted where a woman's place is.  It used to be that a woman's place was in the home.  Now, you're saying that the only valid place for a woman is on the job.

You are just as rigid in your views towards women but you're not seeing it.[/quote]

No, I’m not. You are over-reaching. I was responding only to the “feminism makes me ill” PP. Never said anything about a woman’s place.  I find women and men who give no thought to anything but themselves and their immediate families nauseating.  That selfishness is the root of so many societal ills, more than just women’s rights. [/quote]

You basically are saying that you don't believe that women should be able to make the decision to SAH because that is selfish of them.  I think that women are smart enough to figure these things out for themselves.[/quote]

No, again you are over-reaching.  My only contribution to this string was the "that's because you're selfish".  That's it.  It was a reaction to someone who would say feminist crap makes them ill rather than actually addressing the previous PPs points.  You cannot and should not infer opinions about SAHMs.  Don't project your own sh*t and put words in people's mouths.[/quote]

O.k. I was following along with the conversation and did not realize that you were just responding to that one line.  The full context of the conversation and what prompted that "feminism makes me ill" statement did, in fact, involve labeling the decision to be a SAHM as "selfish" and "narrow minded".[/quote]

I don't agree with that.  I have lots of SAHM friends.  They volunteer at my kids' school when I can't and I'm grateful they are there.  It takes a village.[/quote]

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