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Look, either you work 10 months and then divide your salary over those 10 months, in which case it's higher but you aren't working those two months... OR you work 12 months and divide you salary over those 12 months and make less per month.

The reason we should pay teachers more is[b] to get smarter people competing for the jobs. 
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Yup, there's a lot to complain about. There are a lot in most jobs especially mission-based jobs that don't have high requirements for entry.[/quote]

NP (a teacher). So tired of hearing this! I too, had a challenging career before becoming a teacher. I went to a top-flight college, as did many of my teacher colleagues. We ARE smart and can match wits with anyone in the private sector, thank you very much.[/quote]

But this is the problem with the whole argument. I don't think anybody here has said teachers are adequately paid: you're not. But if you're doing a really difficult job for little money, either it's worth it to you for some reason or you have no better options. If you have options - which I believe is the case for most teachers - then please own the fact you're choosing this despite its drawbacks and quit complaining. That's all people are saying.[/quote]

When I got my teaching degree in 1996, school was incredibly different, and parents were incredibly different. There was no national or state curriculum and no standards-based grading. Most kids did not have some disorder or another and there weren't endless accommodations for “conditions.”  Teachers weren’t threatened with repercussions for saying “ok, boys and girls...” We weren’t expected to buy kids’ supplies and snacks.

Don’t dare blame me for taking issue with how my profession - for which I've spent so much time and momey on education, licensure, training — has changed. [/quote]

BS. When I got my law degree, you could still make partner by being an affable person who did good legal work. You didn't have to work a million hours or generate business as an associate. But the profession changed for the worse, so I went and did something else.  If I had stayed but complained about it, you wouldn't have wanted to hear that either.  [/quote]

I’m a teacher and suspect we’re about the same age, and I too think the teaching profession has changed. However, I totally disagree with the things you take issue with. “Conditions” didn’t just suddenly materialize and if you were doing your job, you would have been providing needed accommodations to kids who needed them long before IDEA mandated services. My guess is that you are coasting and haven’t stayed current on best practices. [/quote]

Thank you so much, PP!  As a parent of a child with LDs, I really appreciate you saying that and I wish you worked in our district. I wish there were more teachers that took kids' issues seriously.  [/quote]

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