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I am from Sweden where we have dramatically lower cancer rates than your country because we use pasteurized oral tobacco instead of cigarettes.   These products have no correlation to cancer whatsoever, something you don't know because your FDA won't allow you to know it.[/quote]

Whoa whoa whoa. There is so much more to this than "the FDA won't allow you to know it." Do you have ANY IDEA what had to be done to break the hold the cigarette industry had on this country? Do you know how hard it was to actually convince people that smoking cigarettes caused lung cancer? Do you know how hard it was to have those warning labels placed on cigarette packs and remove commercials from TV and stop ads from targeting kids?

You don't just casually ignore all that effort and progress because there's a form of tobacco from one country that appears to have fewer significant health risks. Not even the EU allows snus.[/quote]

Appears -- there are forty years of data.  But you can lie about the science if it helps you control your kids better.  Work that into the lesson plan.[/quote]

NP, sorry to go off topic but I thought this was interesting so I looked into it more. It looks like there's no doubt that the Swedish method for making snuff has less harmful chemicals, but I'm seeing conflicting reports on whether or not it's linked to cancer. A quick search turned up these, and I stopped after the first page of hits.

Linked to pancreas cancer but not mouth or lung: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673607606783
Oral and pharyngeal cancer: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ijc.23469
Pancreas again: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ijc.20811

There are some epidemiological studies done in the late 90s that showed no link between snus and cancer, and that was the prevailing assumption in the 2000s. These other papers are more recent.

So while there is no doubt that snus are better than smoking cigarettes, PP needs to show some actual data discrediting these other studies before she can declare there are forty years of data showing no link to cancer. You know, work it into the lesson plan.

Anyway, I know this is off topic but I wanted to throw some caution into the discussion before people go running out to buy this magic tobacco. (Also, it looks like the Swedish method of manufacturing is way superior to the US versions, but it begs the question as to why US manufacturers and the rest of the EU haven't adopted it. Instead they use their own version like Marlboro snus.)[/quote]

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