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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^Agreed, it's a statement about sexual desire, and [b]PP seems to feel that sexual desire should never be studied or discussed critically, which makes sense given her personal experiences.[/b]

As demonstrated, it doesn't make the statement correct.[/quote]
Now you're just making shit up.[/quote]

"anyone who shames sexuality is nuts" [/quote]
Anyone who shames their spouse for sexually desiring them with an out of hand dismissal and a comment to just use their hand and get over it is nuts. And an asshole. 
Be real about the discussion you were having.[/quote]

That's not what she said.  In fact, I quoted her directly.

Talk about making shit up.  [/quote]
Lmao- someone needs to scroll up. Or take something for their memory. This tap dancing you're doing is amazing.[/quote]

Yeah and that person is you.

As stated, I quoted directly.

You, on the other hand..... did not. [/quote]
Everyone can read the convo here and see you tried to shame the man by telling him things changed and he needs to just deal with it and take matters into his own hands. That knee jerk shaming of his desire was wrong. And everyone who cares about their marriage knows that that dismissive attitude isn't what you take when trying to resolve marital issues. And a sudden change in the status quo is a marital issue. Both parties get to be heard and both get a say. But by all means,keep up the good fight against compromise![/quote]

I never "shamed" his desire.  However, when he wants his wife to prioritize his desire, over her own preferences, this is where we run into a problem.

And, in a comment that seems to have completely gone over your head, I was pointing out that that r[b]outine prioritizing of male desire over women's feelings is exactly what leads to such phenomenon as sex trafficking and child sexual abuse.  [/b]
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What utter nonsense.  This is a stretch of epic proportions.  The former is the economics of the black market and the underground economy.  The latter is mental illness.   [/quote]

And at the very root of it?  [b]The fact that [i]SOME[/i] men want to have sex with prostitutes, and [i]a much smaller number of men[/i] have a mental illness that compels them to have sex with children (not just girls).[/b]  Two completely different issues/problems.

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There, fixed it for you.[/quote]

Sure enough men to fund the entire sex industry and make the average age of a prostitute [b]13[/b].  Enough men to make violent pornography popular enough to where there is "torture" genre, and to where "teen" was the number one searched for term for pornography in 2014.

So, it's about time people started thinking about effect of "sexuality" on the recipients of the desire, and not discounting someone's experiences in favor of supporting the turned-on party.

It's a problem that needs to be addressed, and has been allowed to occur by the unwillingness of [b]some[/b] to "shame sexuality". [/quote]

You're nuts.  Yes, humanity is a giant cesspool of murder, rape, theft, you name it.  It has ever been so.  This post was about one man's quest to try to have a happy marriage, not about your greater point about the dark side of sexuality (as seen through the lens of radical feminist doctrine).  How about we let this part of the thread die and let those who are actually interested in helping the poor bastard post on the issue?  You can always start your own thread about how hateful and evil men are.  Actually, I think you already did.[/quote]

I'm not nuts.  This stuff is happening all the time.  The statistics on porn show that in fact quite a lot of men seem to prioritize getting off over the feelings and safety of women.

Sex tourism is the number one industry in Thailand.  1 in 3 college age men would rape a woman if they could get away with it.  These are not a handful of men, much as we would like to believe that.

This is about widespread male sexual entitlement, the very kind OP is displaying when he wants to coerce his wife into sleeping with him despite his awareness that she isn't interested.  [/quote]

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