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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No one is saying doing puzzles, etc is wrong. No one is saying studying for the history test is wrong. The complaint is working with copies/booklets that are nearly identical to the test such that the kids have effectively seen the exact questions in advance.

The score that results is inflated relative to the individual's baseline: it is not an accurate measure. 
The county AAP committee knows this happens. That is why, every spring, you will see posts saying my kid with a 134 CogAT was not admitted because of the 7 GBRS. The county, when looking at the preponderance of the evidence discounts the 134, and looks at the GBRS, the commentary, and the work samples.

This issue is not a problem in multi-generational americans because we are familiar with our educational system which allows for nearly unlimited opportunities. 1) You don't have to be in AAP to go to get an MD/PhD from Harvard. Heck, I know people with PhD's from Harvard that started at SW Missouri State. I know people with PhD's from MIT that started at community colleges. I have a PhD from a comparable school (Caltech), and had a 2.3 GPA in HS. Because, once I am in HS, MS does not matter...Once I am in college, where I went to HS does not matter. No one asks me my HS GPA anymore; if they do, I give it and we laugh. (Oh, and for what it is worth, I always did good on the exams without prep. I can assure you I did not get my 2.3 HS gpa from hard work).

[b]The people that care about the prepping are those that come from countries (usually first generation) where ones track is set at a very early age. In India, the country does not have the resources to give everyone multiple opportunities. So, if one is not in the right track at an early age, they are not able to have success; I have talked to my friends about this -- the ones pushing their daughter to TJ. They get it, but then counter we want her to get into the right college. I want my daughter to graduate without debt -- that is the right college for me (hence state schools). [/b]

And it all comes back to the mentality of test prep. I absolutely do things to provide long term intellectual growth for my daughter through reading, music, and nature. But I do not worry about the performance on any one test. It is not important in our society (except for maybe the bar examine).

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This is pure rationalization for the only significant implication:  your children are not smart enough and can't keep up with first generation immigrants.  Rather than admit this and give credit for preseverance and hard work, you prefer to find fault in favor of your children's new genius at not making the mark/bar.  You downplay TJ, MIT, Stanford and the Ivies in favor of the State schools in favor of less debt somehow ignoring the fact theat many students have less debt at these schools than the State schools.  It's ok not to come in first place.  it's ok to go to the local high school for general ed and it's ok to go to your 
state college.  You don't have to spend inordinate amount of bytes defending this if it's your only alternative in a competitive landscape.  Your children are not losers for this.  Don't worry.

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Here is why you are wrong:  What HS in FCPS has the best teachers?  IDK, but it is NOT TJ.  TJ has the best students, but many of those student would learn more with the better teachers in the base school

At MIT, Caltech, Harvard, Yale, etc, do you think the Professors are paid to teach?  No.  They are judged by there success in research: getting grants and publications.  They care about there grad students (who actually teach the classes) more than the undergrads.

Do you know why people chose which university to work at as professors?  When they are looking for work (after finishing up the PhD/PostDoc), they go to the university with openings.  HYP/MIT etc get good people -- amongst the best; but so do UVA, VA Tech, W & M, GMU, JMU.  There are not a lot of jobs in academia.  The difference is the people at W & M, JMU, etc are judged based on the teaching ability,  rather than the research proliferation.  So, your child will have better teaching at the lesser schools. In addition, there are research opportunities for undergrads at the lesser schools.   However, the peers will be better at the top schools.

If your kid is the type that is self motivated and does not require competition, they may do better at a the second tier schools.  If there excellence is 100% the result of competition, then you want the best competition.

Personally, I am a research scientist.  I pursue the great truths; my work is world renowned, but I am not that competitive; I am more concerned with the work being correct than who gets credit.  (I was offered a CTO position, but turned it down).[/quote]

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