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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you have a child who wants to study computer science please tell them to major in pure mathematics and minor in computer science instead. I am a machine learning engineer and makes $300k. Most machine learning positions are research positions where you need the ability to turn theoretical algorithms into a product. The courses I took in Abstract algebra, topology, differential geometry, and Real Analysis are extremely useful.

Unfortunately, math majors are a rare bread. And the reason is that math departments do a very poor jobs highlighting the diverse careers of their pure math graduates. I think pure mathematics is the best major. [/quote]

why not minor in ML? https://ml.cmu.edu/academics/minor-in-machine-learning

And most ML I've seen looks more Statistics than Math - which ML are you doing?  [/quote]
Statistics is just linear algebra and real analysis applied to certain questions; mix with a bit of probability theory. This is nothing outside of the scope of a pure math major. [/quote]

I'm sure Stats boils down to Math; Math is probably the most universal subject and CS is the second most; I can see Operations Research as a more practical major and palatable to CS majors. Or double major in one of the Engineerings - I heard a MS in EE has done more math than a BS in Math granted different Math topics and no proofs. 
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An MS in EE has done more math problems, than a bottom of the barrel math major. Regardless, I know someone who completed an MS in EE at a top school last spring and is still unemployed. Had a great internship last summer but that company is in a freeze. Everything is bad right now.[/quote]

Tech companies in metro DC are actively hiring EEs. Lots of such jobs exist now along the Silver Line and some also exist along I-270 corridor.

Most jobs are looking for specific skills (e.g., Verilog/VHDL logic programmers or Digital Communications or real-time systems developers with an MSEE are in shortage; MSEE with specialty of Electric Power - ala PEPCO - is not in shortage). [/quote]

Emphasis is IC Design, searching from West Coast but willing to relocate, getting nothing.[/quote]

Lots of jobs posted on tech company websites CS (and yes EE for IC design also). [/quote]

Which perhaps speaks to the difference between job listing and interviews/offers. Perhaps another impact of AI, but the response rate on applications is abysmal. I'm not directly involved, just know sending applications has been treated like a full time job, only a handful of interviews. Top grades, top program. Same family has a recent CS grad with no prospects, though he is less ambitious. My DC will graduate next year with a math degree, which is why this has my attention.[/quote]

I agree that AI is making it much harder for qualified candidates to have their resumes seen by a hiring manager.

Practical result is that one needs to have, build, and maintain a professional network. This disadvantages introverts, sad to say, and favors extroverts.

And new grads need to reach beyond on-campus recruiting to build relationships with faculty (many of whom will have non-academic contacts).  My own first job from college was due to a professor sending my resume to a contact at a commercial firm. He did that because he saw I was diligent in my school work. [/quote]

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