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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For local norms, does anyone know if they are based on base school or school attended (for immersion or other magnet/lottery schools)? I know "in pool" doesn't actually impact chances, just another referral pathway. Just curious if anyone knows what "local" means in this case.[/quote]

How do you know it doesn’t impact chances? I’ve seen somewhere that in pool acceptance rate is roughly 2/3 while out pool is 1/3. I am unable to provide any sources so who knows how much of this is true, but if it is wouldn’t that mean better chance of app when in pool?[/quote]

This has been discussed quite a bit on this forum.  Just having the label "in-pool" does not matter.  However, what does matter is that this means the child's COGAT and NNAT scores are high.  The AAP committee will look at the whole package, and having high COGAT/NNAT scores will be a point in their favor for sure.  [/quote]

Sure, although surely the committee is aware of the kind of prepping that goes on in some corners and for those with near perfect scores they might more critically evaluate the whole packet. But that's just arm-chair speculation.[/quote]

I think that's true for packages that show big gaps between nnat/cogat and other criteria (HOPE, iready, score card). I also think it's odd that people think of prepping in a negative light. From my point of view, prepping means the parents are more involved and invested in the kids education. It's not like they cheat or anything during those tests. Plus, kids are prepped on all kinds of tests in school, starting with SOL in 3rd garde.[/quote]

It's not odd at all and we probably don't need to rehash this conversation as it's well trodden territory in this forum. There are parents who essentially sign their kids up for courses to prepare for the CogAT. As in many, many hours of instruction and practice led by outside individuals on how to ace the test. This isn't the same as getting a book and helping the child get familiar with the test format. And FCPS is well aware, hence the increasingly "holistic" process intended to address the inequity this presents.[/quote]

This really is not the norm. We live in McLean and most parents probably get a cogat book off amazon and take a few practice tests. This is not going to move a 100 kid to 140.[/quote]

Yes, I didn't even know there were courses for CogAT prep, but I have purchased books and other tools, and I don't see any problem with that.  We live in a low SES area but are not in a URM group.  I guess that "helps" my kid because the in pool cutoffs could be lower.  [b]Given the poor quality of education in gen ed, who wouldn't try to get their children the best possible education the family can afford?[/b] [/quote]

This is how many parents rationalize "cheating" on the CogAT. 
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