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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ok I don’t have any feedback for OP but I am now intrigued by the whole DAS controversy. What were the rules and what are they now?[/quote]

So, Disney has changed their requirements for being issued a DAS. Some people who may have been previously approved for one, may not now be. It seems to be rather unclear exactly who qualifies, and people are getting varied results in applying for it. There are some accomodations that Disney is suggesting for those not approved, such as Return to Queue and rider swap. Genie+ is NOT listed as one by Disney, despite what the ableist poster here keeps braying about.

This same poster also thinks that everyone who had a DAS was clogging up the lightening lanes in the most popular rides, multiple times a day. As someone whose dc has used DAS and know many others who have traveled to Disney who use it, I know that it is more likely to NOT be the case-rather, the DAS makes it possible for them to experience the park at all. I happen to think that the idea that the lightening lanes will now suddenly be sparse, is crazy-most likely Disney is just going to sell more Genie+ to fill them. We shall see I guess.

I'm sure the ableist poster will continue to complain about DAS users, regardless of how the change plays out![/quote]

You can say all of this but Disney posted the stats on who was using the lightening lanes. It was 60% DAS. True people with disabilities would not be able to do nonstop rides like this, I agree with you about that.

I just think DAS should have at least had the same rules as Genie+ (just a free version for disabled kids), instead of it being significantly better. [/quote]

I don't necessarily disagree with your last statement, but did Disney really say that DAS users made up 60% of LL users? I have seen Disney "experts" claiming that, but not straight from Disney. Also, many of the accounts I read had high numbers for particular popular attractions at a particular time, not for all LLs.[/quote]

So explain the recent news that the rules changed. What possible reason could there be?[/quote]

Only when you answer my question. Where did Disney say DAS users made up 60% of all LLs?[/quote]

You're the one who has to prove that there was no abuse. Disney said there was and made changes accordingly. The onus is on you to prove that they are wrong.[/quote]

DP here. Disney did say there was abuse - both intentional and unintentional. However they never stated a precise number. Many so called “experts” have guessed though.

It remains to be seen if LL will actually get any short or if Disney will just sell more G+. [/quote]

Right, so the PP keeps repeating a false statement.

It will be interesting to see how things play out.

From reading comments in various forums about how the DAS interviews have been going, the Cast Members are proposing ways to encourage individuals to proactively manage their disabilities and trying to grant DAS only to those who are unable to manage on their own. If Disney would consider more ways to ensure that every guest has a good experience, that would help disabled people most of all. As the complaints in this thread demonstrate, problems like paying for Genie+ and not getting the times you want or not getting popular attractions at all. Other complaints center on long lines, heat, and cost. These factors have an even greater impact on disabled people than the general public. Many (maybe most) DAS users can't be in the parks all day, even with DAS. Disney's operation of the parks makes it harder than ever to manage disabilities without DAS (and I'm sure that contributes to why people have taken advantage). Years ago, the parks had longer operating hours, so there was more time each day to leave, take breaks, and return to the parks. Now, the parks close earlier (AK being the earliest -  closes as early as 6:00 p.m. and is never open later than 8:00 p.m.) HS - the park with the fewest attractions and Genie+ attractions like Slinky Dog that sell out early in the day, frequently closes at 9:00 p.m., as does Epcot.  Extended hours are offered only for deluxe resort guests. Because Genie+ return times are unknown in advance, sell out, or allegedly may have additional slots released during the day, you can't plan your day in advance, which makes things harder for people to be proactive in managing their disabilities.
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Nobody is going to be happy all the time. People with small children also cant use extended hours or be out all day in the heat. Disney has to provide reasonable accommodations and they do. People can try and sue but they will likely lose.[/quote]

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