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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can see people are upset because they have an investment, whether emotional, financial, or ideological, with the current modus operandi at most elite colleges so they are bitterly resistant to the changing realities surrounding elite higher education these days despite that Silver cites data showing significant shift in public perspectives on higher education and elite higher education.

This is what people thought of a freshly minted Harvard graduate in 1994: highly accomplished and brainy nerd.

This is what many people now think when they encounter a freshly minted Harvard graduate in 2024: Either a legacy admit from an extremely connected and / or wealthy family (nepotism) or a mollycoddled diversity admit benefiting from a system that rewards identity over merit. And both will bring the same increasingly annoying social justice warrior outlook largely divorced from reality.

Silver is not a right wing MAGAtard, he is a Democrat and sold his polling business to the NYT. But like a lot of very intelligent nerds, Silver doesn't shy away from frankness.

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You are an idiot. [b]The minority students at Harvard etc have near perfect test scores and/or grades.[/b] The average student now is miles ahead of the 1994 student in terms of academic indicators. Same with the wealthy kids; at the top schools everyone has the scores that's why they add other factors to select.[/quote]
what no?

[img]https://america.cgtn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/HARVARD_CRIMSON.SAT_RACE1.chart_.jpg[/img][/quote]

Let me school you a bit. Go to your chart. Check the X axis. The scale of the chart is designed to make it seem as if there are big differences amongst the scores, but the average score for all races is some form of 700. At Harvard, they taught us (even the minorities) how to discern lies backed by stats and charts. [/quote]

What’s the support for your claim that “some form of 700” means that there are no “big differences”?  Based on 2023 data, it looks like 700 puts a test-taker only in the top 7% nationally. and of course 770 is way north of that, sadly the college board does not disaggregate scores at the high end in its public reporting.  You can complain about the y-axis all you want—I will pass on the cheap shot about Harvard not *quite* teaching you how to read a graph correctly, although I was sorely tempted; you should know the difference between the X and Y axis before you “school” people, IMO— but in a presentation of data intended to focus on the high end performers for whom Harvard admission is a possibility, it does not seem to me misleading to present the data in this way.[/quote]

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