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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I wouldn’t want my kids [b]wasting time memorizing something like the Gettysburg address.[/b] Very pointless. In addition, some kids have issues with memorization. And can you imagine the teacher and students having to listen to 28 kids recite the Gettysburg address?![/quote]

Yes--what is the point of learning the words of one of our greatest Presidents?  What is the point of learning how and where he wrote it?  What is the point of knowing why he wrote it?  What is the point of learning the history of what happened at Gettysburg?  [/quote]

Are you being deliberately obtuse? You need not MEMORIZE it to learn about it, and they why of its importance.

Do you have it memorized? I don't. And I could still tell you about it.[/quote]
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The vast vast majority of us have not memorized the US constitution, [b]yet, we understand the principle of it without having to memorize it[/b].

Really, there is no point in memorizing poems and texts. Study sure, memorize, not necessary.[/quote]

Are you sure about that?[/quote]
well, some people do, but do you really think that those who don't understand the principles of the Constitution would better understand it if they memorized it?

Anyone can memorize words strung together; it doesn't mean they understand what those words mean.

Analyzing the text is definitely worthwhile, but there's really no point in memorizing it.  You don't need to memorize it to understand the basic principles of the text.[/quote]

Other than a parlor trick, nobody, including constitutional scholars, is memorizing the whole constitution. [/quote]
right, and yet, many of us know the principles of it without having ever memorized it.[/quote]

What do you think is gained by memorizing the 18th amendment? Does being able to rattle off the third amendment give you a deeper knowledge of con law? [/quote]

NP.

Yes I do. The third amendment is pretty basic and has been litigated only once I believe so once you memorize the text and learn what it means to quarter soldiers you’ve got the basics of one piece of constitutional law! And I knew what the third amendment was but I just looked up the text and I had forgotten that the constitution forbids forced quartering even in times of war unless it’s “prescribed by law.” So somebody who had it memorized would know better than I did that the founding fathers were really, really against government imposition.

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I'm not a lawyer, but I can memorize whatever amendment, but if I don't understand what I'm memorizing, it's pointless.

Conversely, I can study the amendment without memorizing it and have a good grasp of what that amendment means.

Memorizing text is not necessary to understand the principles of the text.  The time and resource would be better spend for the student to analyze text than just memorizing it, which can be quite time consuming.[/quote]

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