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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Seems very overranked. [/quote] +1[/quote] You can believe that it is overrated but the fact of the matter is that US News, which publishes by far the most important ranking in terms of reach, has ranked Hopkins as a top 10 school in each of the last 5 years. They also received a great $1.8 billion donation from Bloomberg specifically for financial aid. His gifts of over $3.5 billion have been a game changer and make the future look very bright there since it is unlikely he won't pledge even more money to his alma mater.[/quote] “Important?” You seem quite status conscious. USNWR has no idea what schools are best for MY child. But if you want to outsource that call, go ahead and take the shortcut that might impress other parents. My kid and I were willing to put in the time and research to identify schools tailored ton HER.[/quote] I agree 100% that people should be looking for the right schools for them and rankings should just help narrow and focus options. Thankfully, there also isn't just one "right" option for anyone though there are obviously some wrong ones. Thank goodness for the option to transfer! On DCUM, I worry that posters and their kids get so focused on 1-3 "right" schools that are often some of the 25 hardest to get admitted to. USNWR has [b]major[/b] faults but is most "important" of the rankers in terms of clicks and circulation. USNWR consistently ranking Hopkins in the top 10 is a signal that students and parents can take into account or disregard. I would never say to stop looking at Hopkins if you think it is a good match just because USNWR says it is ranked below Chicago. Similarly, you might find Brown, Cornell, Georgetown, Duke, or Rice more appealing (all ranked lower on USNWR). For alums and people on the board with kids at Hopkins, you should be excited about the future. I'm bullish on Hopkins long term. [/quote] +1 I have a kid at Hopkins and he is very happy with it so far. And I agree the USNWR ranking boost is a great thing for the school. Maybe we won't catch up to schools like Penn, Duke, and Columbia in overall desirability, but I think we can overtake schools like Northwestern, UChicago, and Dartmouth in popularity among students. I think we've left Cornell behind at this point.[/quote] Dream on. 9 out of 10 kids pick Cornell and Dartmouth over that school [/quote] And with the latest USNWR ranking, 9 out of 10 employers will choose JHU grads over those two.[/quote] Employers don’t care about USNWR. Look at top consulting and finance firms and see who they hire.[/quote] Sure.[/quote] You want the data? [b]Top Feeders to Elite Consulting Firms (McKinsey, Bain, BCG)[/b]: https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/consulting-target-schools 1. Harvard 2. UPenn 3. MIT 4. Yale 5. Princeton 6. Dartmouth 7. Stanford 8. Duke 9. Columbia 10. Claremont McKenna 11. Northwestern 12. Vanderbilt 13. Rice 14. UChicago 15. Williams 16. Amherst 17. Brown 18. Notre Dame 19. Georgetown 20. WashU St. Louis [b]Top Feeders to Elite Wall Street Firms (Goldman, Morgan Stanley, JPM, etc.)[/b]: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking 1. UPenn 2. Harvard 3. Columbia 4. Yale 5. UChicago 6. Williams 7. Duke 8. Claremont McKenna 9. Middlebury 10. Princeton 11. Dartmouth 12. Notre Dame 13. Georgetown 14. Washington & Lee 15. Cornell 16. Amherst 17. Brown 18. Bowdoin 19. Stanford 20. Vanderbilt [b]Top Feeders to Elite Private Equity Firms (Blackstone, KKR, Apollo Global, etc.)[/b]: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equity/undergraduate-representation-among-pe-firms-with-data 1. Princeton (Placement %: 28.7%) 2. Harvard (Placement %: 18.1%) 3. Dartmouth (Placement %: 18.0%) 4. Penn/Wharton (Placement %: 17.4%) 5. Duke (Placement %: 13.4%) 6. Columbia (Placement %: 8.2%) 7. Yale (Placement %: 7.0%) 8. MIT (Placement %: 6.5%) 9. Stanford (Placement %: 5.3%) 10. Brown (Placement %: 4.2%) 11. UChicago (Placement %: 1.7%) As you can see, none of these employers care how Hopkins ranks in US News.[/quote] Wow, I did not realize Dartmouth placed so well with top employers.[/quote] Seriously? Dartmouth is literally the most bro t10/t15 It’s like penn minus the gunner Long Island, New Jersey, Miami crowd [/quote] This. My cousin’s kid went to Dartmouth and is now on Wall Street. Investment banks want bros, bonus points if you played a sport in college. [/quote] Athletics at top schools is a plus in consulting too. Know a Harvard laxer, Swarthmore laxer, and Yale rower in the MBB world.[/quote]
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