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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Tutoring is good, but its impact will be lower than you think. Mainly the kids with motivated parents will want to stay for extra tutoring/school. These are the kids that are likely to succeed anyway. The kids that have the most trouble come from households that don’t have the time, energy, or inclination to care about school. They won’t make their kids sign up for tutoring. Some say the problem starts even earlier, with parents not reading or talking enough to their toddlers or even worse neglecting or abusing them. It sets kids behind even in kindergarten. I’d say universal pre-K is more helpful than tutoring, but even that’s not a silver bullet. We really just need to fix poverty. There’s a strong correlation between family income and educational success.[/quote] This. Move to Russia if you want socialism. Your don’t “fix” poverty- that’s cAlled socialism. USA is capitalist last I checked. [/quote][/quote] You won't ever get rid of poverty, but you can reduce it. Capitalist societies are capable of that last I checked. Again, there is a strong correlation between family income and educational success. We should be working toward reducing poverty and that in turn will boost educational outcomes. Some people say 2/3s of learning occurs at home. There's only so much that you can do through schools.[/quote] There is a CORRELATION between income and educational success. That does not imply causation. You can't give poor people money and expect their kids to suddenly start doing well in school. It doesn't work that way. My family was economically stable because of my dad's work ethic, and he instilled that trait in all of his children, which is why we were successful in education. You cannot make people succeed in school without motivation. And motivation comes from learning that hard work pays off. Giving people handouts teaches precisely the opposite. "Son, you don't need to work hard in school, because the government will take care of you."[/quote] There are many poor people who work incredibly hard, but due to a variety of factors can't hold a well paying job or accumulate assets. Working hard is by no means a guarantee of success, and it's a stereotype to label poor people as lazy. I also think you're looking at it the wrong way. Having a decent household income won't guarantee educational success, but poverty overwhelmingly results in a bad educational outcome. It's well documented that poverty leads to all kinds things that negatively impact school readiness. Poor kids enter kindergarten already behind their peers, and it snowballs from there. School just doesn't matter as much if you're hungry and just trying to survive. This goes for the parents and the children. Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs comes into play here. By reducing poverty you're increasing the number of kids who can actually focus on school. That in turn will lead to better educational outcomes. Of course, reducing poverty isn't all that easy either, but I think we're relying too much on schools to magically fix our society. More focus should be spent on reducing poverty. It could be an expanded EITC, some kind of baby bonds, higher minimum wage, job creation incentives, UBI, more affordable housing, expanded Medicaid/cheaper medical insurance, or something else. I'm not saying all those solutions will work, but whatever does a better job of reducing poverty will in turn lead to better educational outcomes.[/quote]
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