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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If the college wants to boost their stats, it's how you mark the box, not what you write in the essay. They don't go reading each essay when generating their stats. The essay serves a different purpose, also beneficial though.

You need to look at the college. I'm half Asian and half White. I chose the race that worked best for me for each college, based on their stats. For example, Iowa State is 3.5% Asian so it's better to be Asian than white there: https://www.registrar.iastate.edu/sites/default/files/uploads/stats/minority/Fall%202020%20Multicultural%20reports.pdf
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If you lie on a college application, they can kick you out. If you lie on the FAFSA or financial aid documents, it is a Federal offense.  I think there is a lot of bad information being given, and most people either do not know or do not care about the actual rules, but feigning ignorance is not a defense. [/quote]

How is it lying? I'm 50% Asian, and 50% White. Why can't I identify with either of those?[/quote]

You can identify as Native American if that is how you identify. Who is the school to tell you how you identify? They won’t dispute that you identify as the race you put on your application. How could they disprove what a person identifies as?[/quote]

Exactly why schools should require a copy of birth certificates and copies of driver's licenses.  The races on those docs and admissions paperwork bette match.  [/quote]

[b]Most birth certificates do not list race[/b].[/quote]

"Most" is incorrect. And for the ones that don't, there are plenty of government forms since childhood that require "race."  Colleges could require any one of those forms too. [/quote]

Even those don’t require race as they permit declining to answer or allow checking as many boxes as desired. Even my records are inconsistent in the same year.

In my own case, the easiest identity for me to give people is AA. I’m clearly a person with African ancestors. But I’m also clearly (to most AAs at least) someone with a considerable number of non-African ancestors. I often get the question “Where are you from?” from people of all races. My family history is pretty complicated with a lot of oral history that ended up being supported by 23andme. I don’t really want to discuss all that every time I have to identify. I tend to give a broader identity only when it is really relevant to whatever the person needs to know about me. My biological kids are even more mixed and I have tended to list them just as AA unless there is a medical issue. For us, biracial is AA. And phenotype is a funny thing. People almost never guess African ancestry for my racially ambiguous youngest daughter. People assume her sister is “Blasian”, but her eye shape and long hair are Native American genes. DH (not my kids’ biological father) is pretty much the same percentage white as me, but he’s very dark skinned and I am very light skinned. [/quote]

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