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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]After all the rationales given on this thread about how Jews have to protect their small community, is pp seriously arguing that OP’s daughter truly has free choice in the matter?

And is pp truly arguing that most people wouldn’t probably want to keep their own identities if they truly had free choice? [/quote]

Do you question the sincerity and motives of everyone who converts to another religion or only those who convert to Judaism? She obviously either truly wants to convert, or wants to marry him enough to want to convert. Either way it’s her choice. Should we question what choices you’ve made regarding your beliefs?[/quote]

The question is whether this is a truly free choice. You hint at it when you say that conversion is the price for marrying him. She should be able to make the choice to convert freely, without the gun-to-her-head of breaking off the marriage. [/quote]

Why? Those are both perfectly valid choices. If I were dating a vegetarian who insisted on keeping a vegetarian house, I'd have to decide whether to accede to that or break it off. You seem to think he is this amazing pearl who is dangling himself as a prize in front of her and her life will be ruined if she doesn't take him, so she has no choice.  That's just not the case. She is perfectly free to say no thanks, or let's just live together, or no I won't convert but we can raise the kids Jewish, etc.

As a PP said, people argue about religion all the time, particularly in the context of raising children. And people make compromises all the time in choosing a partner and in marriage. And -- gasp -- people meet other people who introduce them to things that change their world view, whether that be politics, religion, language, or what have you. You seem to think it impossible that anyone could genuinely want to convert to Judaism. I think that says more about you than about this person whose life you don't know.[/quote]

You keep missing the point, so I’m starting to guess that’s deliberate. The point is all the family pressure that may or may not even be coming from the guy. Family isn’t a factor in choosing to be vegan or to speak a different language.  You write above that you’d be disappointed or upset if your child chose to leave Judaism, but you do not write about what that would entail. It’s his/her ultimate choice, you say, and that’s true to the extent that, in this country, you can’t stop him/her. It seems very likely that—unlike the parents of a vegan—you’d argue for months, or cry in front of your child, or engage in long silences, or treat the spouse with disrespect. Can you try answering the question again, and this time give a complete answer?

Your continuing, and wrong, telepathic psychoanalysis of me doesn’t reflect well on you. [/quote]

PP wrote above that he “would have a problem with her” if his child left Judiaism. That sounds a lot more intense than vegan parents with a child who goes paleo.[/quote]

You haven’t met my sister’s vegan in laws (who do indeed go nuts over my brother in law’s paleo leanings). Even their dog is vegan. [/quote]

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