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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here the reason I ask is that the right seems to be fixated on admissions to schools like HYP and affirmative action. Why do they even want to be there? Why not just have right wing school with stellar academics, envy of everyone, plus no affirmative action? My theory is that they are simply incapable of duplicating the same caliber of school. They are loud, but not very patient or hard working. [/quote]

As it's already been pointed out, academics with no real-life experience tend to gravitate to political liberals.  It has more to do with the type of people who gravitate to the life of the university -  and nothing to do with the silly idea that political conservatives have no financial means of supporting a university.  [/quote]

Do you have experience at elite universities? You couldn't be more wrong.

Also, PP wasn't saying conservatives don't have the financial means to support a university; the issue is that right-wing politics (contemporarily conceived -- not right wing in the traditional sense, such as fiscal conservatism) are essentially incompatible with the culture of intellectual inquiry elite universities try to cultivate. [/quote]
+1  Many Trumpsters say they want to go back to the way American used to be. Conservatives do not like change (progress) of any sort. They don't like the fact that automation has killed jobs (never mind that it has created more high paying jobs); they don't like that women want more equality, or (gasp) gays. They don't like that science has taken over religiosity (think Isaac Newton, but on a smaller scale); they want our teens to stay ignorant about their bodies and sex so don't want sex ed taught in schools.

Not all conservatives are like this. There are sane ones, but the current R party seems to have been overtaken by these extreme conservatives they hate any kind of progress or enlightened thinking.[/quote]

Trump supports the current lawsuit against Harvard.  [/quote]

Do YOU support anti-Asian American systemic racial discrimination?[/quote]

Trump and his administration support the lawsuit against Harvard -  he does not support anti-Asian American systematic racial discrimination.  In fact, he supports justice, equality, freedom, and prosperity for all Americans.

Unemployment has been the lowest in memory, including for African-Americans.  The stock market's been up at least 30% since his inauguration.    [/quote]
oh please oh please, I am not happy about the discrimination of Asian Americans, but I also know that Trump is no friend to a group of people who are largely recent immigrants, made up of chain migration.  Why do you suppose support of Trump by Asian Americans is low if Asian Americans thought Trump was "on their side"?  This group used to vote R. No longer.[/quote]

You are clueless about Asian Americans (and I guess about Hispanics too).

Most are NOT, I insist most are NOT, recent immigrants.

Yes, they do care about immigration, and would love to see a rational system in place, but they know that Dems didn't move a finger in that direction when they got a chance.

Like most Americans, their priority os about jobs and the economy, probably followed by law and order.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if a majority of Asian Americans voted GOP in 2018 and 2020.[/quote]
haha... pp here.. I'm an Asian American immigrant. Most of my Asian American friends are immigrants; they were not born here. They came here when they were very young, and yes, most came through chain migration.  I used to be a R, too, but most of my Asian American friends are Dems now. I'm in Independent leaning D after Trump.

Asian immigrants really started to come here en masse in the 80s and 90s when racist laws were changed to allow in more non white immigrants.  Very few in the 70's (when I came).   IMO, that's "recent" enough in that the majority who vote came here in that time period.   The very recent ones cannot vote since it takes years to become citizens.  I'm from CA, home of the largest Asian American immigrant community.

You are the clueless one about Asian Americans, and probably Hispanics (lots of them in CA, too).  Look at how they have voted in the past 30 years.  They started out voting for Rs, but now most of them vote D.  You might want to think about why that is.

Your post was too funny, and ignorant.[/quote]

Sorry, but you should educate yourself a bit before assuming your fresh-off-the-boat experience applies to everyone.

There have been strong Filipino, Chinese and Japanese communities for 200 years, mostly in CA. And strong Hispanic communities in many states for over 300 years -- in fact, the vast majority of Hispanics is native born. Look it up, and don't make a fool of yourself.[/quote]

200 years!  They arrived in California before General Sutter.[/quote]

Yup.

And Hispanics were already there.

Whoever is saying Asians/ Hispanics are all a result of recent chain migration is a bigot or racist, or both.[/quote]

NP - These long-standing populations were VERY small.
Racial and Ethnic Demographics of the United States (Total Numbers) Between 1930 and 2010[15][16][17][c]
Race/Ethnic Group	1930	1940	1950	1960	1970	1980	1990	2000	2010
Total Population	122,775,046	131,669,275	150,697,361	179,323,175	203,210,158	226,545,805	248,709,873	281,421,906	308,745,538
White	110,286,740	118,214,870	134,942,028	158,831,732	178,119,221	188,371,622	199,686,070	211,460,626	223,553,265
Black	11,891,143	12,865,518	15,042,286	18,871,831	22,539,362	26,495,025	29,986,060	34,658,190	38,929,319
American Indian, Eskimo, and Aleut	332,397	333,969	343,410	551,669	795,110	1,420,400	1,959,234	2,475,956	2,932,248
Asian and Pacific Islander	264,766	254,918	321,033	980,337	1,526,401	3,500,439	7,273,662	10,641,833	15,214,265
Some other race			48,604	87,606	230,064	6,758,319	9,804,847	15,359,073	19,107,368
Two or more races								6,826,228	9,009,073
Hispanic (of any race)		2,021,820[14]	3,231,409[14]	5,814,784[14]	8,920,940[14]	14,608,673	22,354,059	35,305,818	50,477,594
Non-Hispanic White		116,261,189[14]	131,805,405[14]	153,217,498[14]	169,622,593[14]	180,256,366	188,128,296	194,552,774	196,817,552

There were only 1.5 million Asians in the United States in 1970.  In the 20 years between 1970 and 1990, the number of Hispanics went from 8.9 million to 22.3 million.  So, the majority now may be native born, but this is a very recent, very significant shift in the demographics of this country.  Noting this does not make someone racist.[/quote]

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