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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My unpopular opinion..

As a Dem I think their shutdown strategy of holding the line on premiums is a losing one.

Like it or not, the GOO has the upper hand with Trump at the helm.  Sooner or later, the govt needs to reopen. The shut down creates a distraction for Trump and proj 2025 to leverage opportunities. A lot can happen in the shutdown with him as Pres, legally or not.

The better strategy is to use the leverage of anger when GOP increases costs to bring more folks to the Dem side.  If you are a Dem, you support what they are doing but those independents and GOP folks are who you want to convince. The way to do that is not to inflict more pain and ultimately lose this fight but to jet the pain happen and say - hey vote for us instead!

The only thing happening now is pain for all.  This is nothing but a damn show out in by the Dems to court public favor- to say hey - aren't we cool?! They are not. I put money on the fact that the only people who will be backing down to reopen the govt will be Dems as GOP are clearly anti gov.  This is exactly what they want.  As long as the right people get paid - those in their side - they win.

This whole mess is the Dem debacle and I'm a Dem.  This is just not the right fight to have.  Not at all.  They will end up in a weaker position than the start because they won't have gained anything.

This is how Trump win the Presidency - they built a org, a momentum, a team, a cause.  It's what the Dems should be doing.  What's going on now is the people working separately from political leadership and that's what the Dems need to fix. 
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I agree somewhat. The Dems are in a losing position like the GOP was during the Obama administration when the ACA passed. The GOP offered no better ideas and the Dems came out looking good. Now the shoe is on the other BUT the Dems could drop the rope in this tug of war and let the GOP land on its keester. Instead, hardline partisan politics on both sides will hurt the electorate by holding up the budget. SMH[/quote]
While the GOP got the blame for the 2013 shutdown, they did quite well in the 2014 midterms. I suppose today's Dems are looking toward a similar outcome.[/quote]

I think continuing to dig in will backfire on the Dems. They will be seen more like MAGA / GOP on this one. Bity will be seen as focusing too much on the feud between them and forgetting they are supposed to working for the American people. [/quote]

I don’t think so. What are the R’s talking about now? Building ballrooms and arcs for Trump. How to get him the nobel peace prize. The R’s are the most unserious and unqualified. They were elected to represent the people and they are failing miserably.[/quote]

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