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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I would think a baby would be extremely fussy and crying in a bulky carrier in such high temperature. I don’t see how the parents could have continued to hike with crying baby. They probably took the baby out from the carrier, calmed her down, gave her water etc. and the hike became much longer than initially planned.[/quote]

They might not be. I remember reading about a baby who died from heatstroke while in the backseat of the car, parents were in the front. They had no idea until they got to their destination that the baby had died. [/quote]

Yeah it can manifest as lethargy before lapsing into unconsciousness.[/quote]

Are there really conscientious parents of 1 year olds who are not aware of this when in the heat with their toddlers? Wouldn’t they have been pushing liquids and sunscreen and checking for dirty diapers, etc?

It’s one thing to think your baby is sleeping in the back of your car, another thing to be hiking in the heat….I would have been checking every minute or two.

Maybe my anxiety disorder is more useful than I realized.[/quote]

Ha, I used to ride in the backseat next to baby. People made fun; anxiety disorder wins the day.

I assume WS is not tolerant of the FA speculation we have here.

I feel like this has been 100+ pages of people saying all the same things. We won't know until the final reports. [/quote]

I read on WS:

&quot;My last thought is that I don’t expect any of the autopsies/necropsy to be too conclusive. All 4 of those bodies sat out in sweltering heat for &gt;48hrs, that will lead to a lot of confounding postmortem changes. Had they been taken off the trail the night they died, I think signs of heatstroke would likely be more readily apparent&quot;

:(  It's so sad.  The same commenter was an ER Vet and he also said:

&quot;We had an unprecedented heatwave at the beginning of June where temperatures reached the low 100s & the night time low was only ~80. We treated (& lost) so many (pet) patients to heatstroke in those few days, many from just attempting simple walks around their neighborhood. Most people were not used to the heat & as very few have central AC the overheating process they kicked into gear on their walks, had a hard time getting reversed once they got home.

Dogs don’t sweat, they can only release their heat through panting & evaporative (sweating) through their paw pads. This makes them much more susceptible to overheating than people as the temperature of the ground will directly impact their ability to cool (or will contribute to drive their temperature higher).

As others have theorized, I think this is a tragic case of overestimation of ability & lack of foresight regarding temperatures. I think it is highly likely the dog was the first to succumb & was likely carried, which lead to more exertion & stress in the people & then a domino effect with the heat & being on those exposed switchbacks. Very sad but hope it is a case that others can learn from when setting out for causal adventures with their pets & kids.&quot;[/quote]

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