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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How about Michelle Obama? Or a celebrity we'll just run themselves with confident people?[/quote]

Stop with the political dynasties already!!

Can’t you see that is why we are in this position right now? [/quote]
I generally assume that people suggesting HRC, Mrs Obama or any celebrity are trolling. I think HRC would do great, actually, but she’s not interested. She won in 2016 and instead we got the great treason weasel.[/quote]

HRC did not win in 2016. [/quote]
Eh. HRC won. [/quote]

Nope. Not by our country's long established process. If you dont like it, then work to get it changed. Otherwise, you're no better than Trump complaining that he really won reelection.[/quote]

Yes, we are still better ffs. Because we're not actually trying to prevent the orderly transition of power, and we're not encouraging violent insurrection. We're pointing out that the majority of voters wanted something different - VERY different - from what we got. [/quote]

You clearly haven't read all the posts in this thread and others [/quote]

88% of americans favor some form of Roe
88% of americans facor some form of gun control and red flag laws

The majority of americans favor democrats and liberal policies.

Facts matter.[/quote]

Isn't the beauty of local and state elections that votes are basically these polls where they take the consensus and make that policy? So what is the point of bringing up polls. Let the voting booths speak for themselves. This is more of a general comment because whenever I see polls being brought up in political debates I don't really get it lol.  [/quote]

Yea, so the problem is this little thing called gerrymandering totaling Fing up state legislatures.  So voting doesn’t represent the people either, dumba$$[/quote]

It's really amazing that despite the attention on this issue, people still don't get it.  Let me give a few examples:
-  North Carolina, 2018.  Democrats got 1,866,432 votes to Republicans 1,779,584, but Republicans got 65 seats and Democrats got 55.
-  Wisconsin, 2018, Democrats got 1,306,878 to Republicans 1,103,505, but Republicans got 63 seats and Democrats got 36.  
-  PA, 2018, Democrats got 2,568,968 to Republicans 2,075,093, but Republicans got 110 seats and Democrats got 93.
-  Michigan, 2018, Democrats got 2,128,281 to Republicans 1,935,174, but Republicans got 58 seats to Democrats 52.

2018 was a wave election where Democrats crushed Republicans in vote totals, but gained very little in terms of actual seats.  Republicans have completely rigged the game in many states, so the argument that voters are going to get to decide abortion policy at the state level has no factual basis.  Radical Republican legislators who have installed themselves despite the will of the voters will be deciding.[/quote]

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