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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In other words, no matter who you speak with, how qualified they are, how much you learn, you are bent on vilifying Islam anyways. Ok then.[/quote]

There is substantially no new development in this thread. You have people calling out problematic verses of the Quran, which the apologists defend through liberal interpretations thereof, with arguments reduced to whether we should take certain verses of the Quran at face value. Islam is not special in this regard. This same tired way of arguing has been heard from the Christians and the Jews throughout the past centuries. When confronted with modern scientific facts and contemporary social/political/moral values, religion invariably retreats and hide under excuse that certain passages don't mean what they literally are written to mean. We are told that to understand the TRUE meaning you have to learn more about it, consult authorities, or when all else fails, learn to read the religious texts in their original languages.[/quote]

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