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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]And we explained countless times that our belief is not based on science.

We are not discussing whether heaven exists. But this is what you atheists repeatedly try to discuss with us.

So there is no discussion. No believer is interested in engaging a cyclical argument over whether God or heaven exists. We know it does. Not up for discussion.  Its foolish to keep revisiting this since we are not likely to change our belief system.

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Atheists know full well that religious belief is not based on science.  If you don't like what atheists say here,  I suggest that you do not engage with them, instead of trying to throw them off the thread.[/quote]

I'm not sure I buy OP's theory about dark matter, and I'm pretty sure I don't buy into there being seven heavens. I am religious, however.

But, the issue here is that some atheists are actively trying to derail OP's thread, while others might be well-intentioned but they're still effectively derailing instead of engaging OP.

Which is how it goes any time someone tries to discuss faith: ask a serious question about faith and a bunch of atheist scolds come on to tell us we shouldn't believe anything in the first place, and now we should all discuss baseline questions like whether heaven or God exists. Which is why so few people of faith engage on this forum.

Can we change this? Probably not. For a few (not all!) atheists, it's just too much fun (and their lives are clearly so devoid of family and hobbies) to derail with annoying nonsense. For the well-intentioned atheists, why is it too much to ask you to stop derailing threads like this one, and to start your own threads on the baseline questions about heaven's existence? If it intrigues you so much, why not hit "new topic" and go for it?  I don't care about this particular thread that much, but I'd love to see this dynamic play out differently on threads I do care about.[/quote]

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