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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] There is no cure for ADHD. Thats not news, we all know that. But there is a treatment. And, yes, the treatment only works while taking it. but during that "temporary" period of time kids go to school, learn, develop social relationships, function. And when you master those skills in 5th grade you are better placed to continue them in 6th, and then 7th and then so on. If you lose 5th grade because you can't focus, read, write (don't minimize dysgraphia, my DS has it and it affects everything, including math), you will start 6th grade at a deficit (academically, socially, behaviorally) and over the years that deficit will grow. There's no cure for deafness, but kids can get cochlear implants that allow them to hear. It isn't a cure, if the implants are removed or off, the deafness returns. Its similar.[/quote] Lots of stuff here..... 1) Regarding "the treatment only works while taking it": the treatment (meds) are not temporary because people stop taking them, they are temporary because they stop working. 2) Regarding "but during that "temporary" period of time kids go to school, learn, develop social relationships, function.": You're right, they do. Except a medicated child is doing this on drugs that facilitated this functioning and that will not be maintained. 3) Regarding "And when you master those skills in 5th grade you are better placed to continue them in 6th, and then 7th and then so on.": A child on medication is not "mastering" anything. They have ingested something that forces their body and mind to act in a way that they cannot act without medication. And when the meds stop working, so will the skills, because they were never mastered in the first place. 4) Regarding "If you lose 5th grade because you can't focus, read, write (don't minimize dysgraphia, my DS has it and it affects everything, including math), you will start 6th grade at a deficit (academically, socially, behaviorally) and over the years that deficit will grow": If this were true, medicated children would show better long term academic outcomes than unmedicated children. And yet, they don't. Also, a medicated child can "lose" 5th grade too. Every day that he is on medication he loses an opportunity to learn what coping skills he needs to develop and cultivate in order for him to compensate for the way his brain functions. His meds will wear off in a few years, and he will then be back to square one, having learned nothing and looking for a higher dosage to simply function. 5) Regarding: "There's no cure for deafness, but kids can get cochlear implants that allow them to hear. It isn't a cure, if the implants are removed or off, the deafness returns. Its similar.": It is so not similar. Cochlear implants do not stop working after several years, you can have a cochlear implant indefinitely, they don't put any chemicals or drugs into your body that mess with your brain chemistry, and as far as I know, they don't have side effects like loss of appetite, poor sleep, anxiety, and stunted growth. Not even close to stimulants. Sorry. [/quote] [b]Do you have any evidence based research to support the nonsensical opinions you are spouting? Better yet, are you a medical professional? If "no" to both, please stay off of this thread.[/b][/quote] Look, I am not the pp, but he/she knows what they are talking about. The whole system is geared towards acceptance of the meds, so it is a culture that we have. It is in every parent's best interest to believe that what they are doing for their child is the best. So when someone comes along with information like the pp did, it SCARES us, as it should. [/quote] But she doesn't know what she's talking about. There are no studies that have any validity to support her IDEOLOGICAL arguments. Her "information" is based on one very poorly designed study. This is not information, this is a scare tactic (yes, you are correct to use that word.) I am not scared. [b]I have relied on the best medical science [/b]and my children with ADHD are thriving. I suspect that those of you with the anti-med bias do not have children with ADHD.[/quote] 1. Not all medical professionals agree with you. Dr. Brock Eide and Dr. Fernette Eide are pretty anti-med. They are leading developmental pediatricians who went to Harvard. Dr. anford Newmark is a pediatrician at he Osher Center for Integrative Medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, has doubts about the long term safety of these medications. Danish researches in 2011 called for more studies because the long term safety of these drugs is not clear. 2. Rat studies are showing that the use of Ritalin and Concerta damages working memory and neuroplasticity in juvenile brains. http://neurobio.drexelmed.edu/GaoWeb/papers/Urban_Gao_2013_Medical_hypothesis.pdf 3. In the review of literature from the rat study, I linked the researchers mention that ADHD medications can cause long term disruptions in sleep/wake cycles and increases in anxiety well into adulthood, even after treatment has stopped. So... there is excellent medical opinion that there are reasons to be cautious with these medications and research to show that these medications cause damage to the brain. I'm super glad PP's children are thriving. I wonder how they'll be doing as adults. (I'm sure that PP will blame the ADHD and not the meds if they aren't doing well, though.)[/quote]
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