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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Mine went TO to William and Mary.His best friend entered with a 1540 SAT. His friend has been struggling and mine is is doing well with a Business Analytics major and a time consuming arts minor.  There is a lot more to it than scores. [/quote]

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My kids are doing just fine, even without top SAT scores. 
They worked hard in high school, had well-balanced extracurriculars and leadership roles. 
Their GPA was strong, and they took a rigorous course load. They are all attending selective colleges.

I believe success isn't defined by the SAT score—it's the grit and diligence that bring out the best in you.[/quote]

Isn’t SAT an indicator of grit and diligence (the more you study, the better your do—?)[/quote]

The logic is this: 
Yes, there can be kids with grit and diligence who have high SAT scores, but not every low SAT score means a lack of grit and diligence, and not every high SAT score reflects grit and diligence.

Therefore, what defines your success is not your SAT score, but your grit and diligence.
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Every kid I know who’s done well on the test has true grit. It’s not an easy test. People love to say it is, but it isn’t - it takes a lot of studying + the academic foundation.  Some kids do have grit but do poorly and it’s because they don’t have the academic foundation. I agree it’s not an intelligence test.[/quote]

I’ve seen a student with high scores but a poor GPA—definitely a smart kid, but he didn’t put much effort into his schoolwork. 
He could be an outlier, but he fits into the category of “high scores but lacking diligence.[/quote]

Perhaps he is taking more advanced courses that affect his GPA.  Perhaps he is heavily involved in student activities or sports.  Why, when you talk about GPA, the bar becomes 4.0 or perfect score?  Whereas when you discuss SAT, the test score suddenly becomes non-important?

Or maybe he needs to work to support the family.  Or he is neurodiverse so he couldn't focus so much on the classwork.  [/quote]

The most troubling issue with TO lovers is they use double standards in judging a kid.

Test score must not be a result of grit and diligence (or whatever standard they see fit).  
GPA must be a result of grit and diligence.

This artificial dichotomy simply just don't follow the logic.[/quote]

At the policy level, if test optional is okay, then gpa optional is also okay.
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No.  GPA is the only thing we have for academics here.  In local high school, no one has ever cracked 1200 in SAT.  GPA wise, we have about 20% students getting 4.0.

DC’s dream school is Yale, that’s a long shot so they won’t get their hopes up.  They are applying to multiple t20 test optional schools, may end up going to one of those.  [/quote]

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