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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I never liked Trump, but I also very much dislike the Democrats. It'd be too strong to say I was rooting for Trump or that I thought he'd to a good job, but I thought there was a *chance* he'd do a good job, and, for the sake of the country, I was really hoping he would. I didn't vote for him, but I also never seriously considered voting for Harris or Biden. I thought Trump's first term was at moments scary but overall pretty good.

With the wind-up, let me say: geez Louise this is going shittily. [/quote]

You are missing the big picture. It’s bad for Wall Street. But this is going great if you are from Main Street. 
No pain, no gain. Finally a president who is fighting for main street. 
Manufacturing jobs will have to come back to the US. If these corporations don’t do it, they will keep watching their stock prices sinking.

[/quote] and you believe this domestic manufacturing boom will manifest itself within what time frame?

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It could take years. It’ll be painful but it will make us stronger. Our kids will thank us.
We have been through recessions before and came out stronger. Why are people so scared?[/quote]

NP. You don't understand that manufacturing ended up in SE Asia because it was cheaper. This was beneficial for the US consumer. "Bringing manufacturing back" will mean that products will cost 5-10x to produce. [/quote]
It will cost 5-10x more but will be better quality and last longer.
The American dream wasn’t about cheap Chinese products.
Americans will pay more for good quality US made products.[/quote]

My family buys American-made goods whenever we can because we are a union family. For example, we only buy American cars. In that respect, we are more patriotic than most MAGA who purport to be more patriotic than anyone else. But the vast majority of Americans are so used to all the cheap crap they buy at Target, Amazon, Walmart, and the like that your "dream" will never be a reality. Our whole economy is BASED ON consumer consumption of lots of cheap crap. What do you think is going to replace that? You can't put the genie back in the bottle and start asking people to buy things that will cost "5-10x more" as you blithely suggest. [/quote]
Of course the goal isn’t to replace the cheap crap. The new economy will be based on consumer consumption of few good quality stuffs. Yes, you can ask people to buy things that will cost more. They have no other choices because the cheap crap will be gone. Older generations did it and life was good in America.

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As a minimalist this is the only upside I see. I absolutely hate cheap plastic crap in goodie bags, fast fashion, the dollar section at Target, any sort of “shopping spree,” etc.

But I grew up in a red state and know many Trumpers who are all about new new new tchotchkes. Must have Home Goods holiday decor, Hobby Lobby signs, Target and Starbies runs, etc.

My life will plug along just fine without all this crap. I already have nice hand me downs for my kids (I live in a $$$ zip code where people give away quality kids clothes), I buy natural fiber eco-friendly clothes (I prefer fewer nicer items), and I don’t do cheap plastic junk. But boy are these moms who love to share their “hauls” and presents piled under the Christmas tree on social media going to have an identity crisis lol. [/quote]

Alllllll those Utah Mormon shopping influencers and wanna be influencers are going to be upset when clothes and seasonal doo dads are no longer dirt cheap.

Also the tariffs have already affected the price and availability of the new Nintendo Switch 2 (assembled mostly in Vietnam) so that’s another big thing. Maybe younger people will finally start paying attention. [/quote]

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